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   RE: [xml-dev] Prior Art For Microsoft's XUL Patent Wanted

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Do a web Search on US Navy MID and ISO ISMID. 
Because some of those were posted here just
recently in conversations with you, I have 
to assume you don't bother to look outside 
your own boat until it is sinking.

This one is easy.  The MID work was started 
in 1993, with working prototypes and everything.
We probably should have patented it then but 
we didn't believe in it and it was US Navy work.

MS may have a bogus patent.  They know that because 
information about MID has been posted to their 
online blog sites.  Because Paoli works for 
MS and was aware of MID while working at Grif, 
and there were public presentations made 
at which Microsoft employees were present, 
they can't claim not having prior knowledge. 
It was too well known in the SGML community 
and the DoD (both sides of the ponds) communities. 
There were even articles published out of 
Mantech about doing MID with HTML.

Hytime saved your bacon.  The MID work 
predates both XUL and XAML by a good six 


From: Gerald Bauer [mailto:luxorxul@yahoo.ca]

  If you missed the news the United States Patent and
Trademark Office (uspto.gov) just granted Microsoft a
patent on XUL. See the XUL News Wire Story @
for details.

   Now here's my first reaction:  

  For once it has its benefits that the Mozilla folks
haven't touched their XUL docs for ages and are frozen
in time.

  For example, Microsoft filed its XUL patent on May
20, 1999 disclosing its "invention" to the world.

  Now David Hyatt touched up the chrome configuration
spec the last time on April 7, 1999.

  See yourself online @

  Anyone knows about other links to prior art?

    - Gerald

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