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   RE: [xml-dev] How to do a choice on aggregation with w3C XML schema

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Thanks Strolia:

As you correctly pointed out without an xslt type <xsl:if> construct,
xml schema is unable to do teh task.

More investigation showed that w3c schema is not as powerful as i
thought.

But since the xml vocabulary/structure was decided by another party, we
did not have any control over it. Otherwise as John pointed out earlier,
its not good xml. And there is no was a simple schema validation will
assure that a given xml is in adherence with what is expected.

We actually ended up with multiple schemas. Each pertaining to one type
of command.

When we get an xml, we check - using parser - what type of command it is
and then we validate it using the correct schema. Needless to say really
painful.


Thanks again
--sony


On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 09:10, Strolia-Davis Christopher Contr MSG/MAT
wrote:
> Hi Sony,
> 
> I'm still a bit new to schemas, so I might be just a little off here, but I think I see what you are trying to do.  I don't think you will be able to do it completely with xml schemas.
> 
> For the schema part, you could probably take it down to something like this
> 
> <xs:simpleType name="reqTyp">
>   <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>     <xs:pattern value="REQUEST1"/>
>     <xs:pattern value="REQUEST2"/>
>     <xs:pattern value="REQUEST3"/>
>   </xs:restriction>
> </xs:simpleType>
> 
> 
> <xs:complexType name="reqDatTyp">
>   <xs:sequence>
>     <xs:element name="REQ1_DAT1" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     <xs:element name="REQ1_DAT2" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     ...
>     <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT1" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT2" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT3" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     ...
>     <xs:element name="REQ3_DAT1" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
>     ...
>   </xs:sequence>
> </xs:sequence>
> 
> 
> Notice that this does not restrict the data to a choice between one of the different types (I know that is something you need here).  If you were going to do that with xml schemas, I don't think you could make it a choice of sequences, but rather of elements with those sequences in them (it doesn't look like that will fit your intended schema, however).  In any case, it still wouldn't be able to validate that the right element was used in relation to the value in the "COMMAND" tag.
> 
> Since you are requiring a restriction to specific elements based on a value in another element, you would likely have to use XSLT to break that information out.  You could use an XPath expression to find the offending code and return an error if it is found.  Mr. Costello has an excellent site that discusses much of this information http://www.xfront.com .
> 
> Here is one document that contains information that discusses this.  Take a look at page 7.
> http://www.xfront.com/ExtendingSchemas.pdf
> 
> 
> At the moment, I don't have an example to give you, hopefully someone here will come up with something.  In any case, I hope I am getting you on the right track.
> 
> If someone else on the list knows something I don't, in regards to this, please let me know.  This is an issue that concerns me as well.
> 
> Chris Strolia-Davis
> Database Specialist
> Contractor - CDO Technologies Inc.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: santony@bellsouth.net [mailto:santony@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:34 AM
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: [xml-dev] How to do a choice on aggregation with w3C XML schema
> 
> 
> Hello:
> ( Please redirect me to the correct list if this is not where I m supposed to 
> ask this question )
> 
> Our application essentially sends xml 'commands' to another system.
> 
> These commands are essentially one xml element signifying which command it is ( 
> 3 types of commands ) and a corresponding data required by that command.
> Because some different teams are involved, we do not have freedom to change the 
> XML structure ( xml vocabulary )
> XML appears in one of the following 3 forms
> 
> <COMMAND>REQUEST1</COMMAND>
> <COMMAND_DATA>
> <REQ1_DAT1> something </REQ1_DAT1>
> <REQ1_DAT2> something </REQ1_DAT2>
> ...
> </COMMAND_DATA>
> 
> or
> 
> <COMMAND>REQUEST2</COMMAND>
> <COMMAND_DATA>
> <REQ2_DAT1> something </REQ2_DAT1>
> <REQ2_DAT2> something </REQ2_DAT2>
> <REQ2_DAT3> something </REQ2_DAT3>
> ...
> </COMMAND_DATA>
> 
> or
> 
> <COMMAND>REQUEST3</COMMAND>
> <COMMAND_DATA>
> <REQ3_DAT1> something </REQ3_DAT1>
> 
> ...
> </COMMAND_DATA>
> 
> 
> We need to essentially build a schema that will restrict the xml to be in one 
> of these 3 forms. Is it possible to do this at all.
> 
> I had trouble defining it as the definition for COMMAND_DATA is changing 
> depending on what the COMMAND is.
> 
> I tried something like
> 
> <xs:simpleType name="req1Typ">
>    <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>       <xs:pattern value="REQUEST1"/>
>    </xs:restriction>
> </xs:simpleType>
> 
> <xs:simpleType name="req2Typ">
>    <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>       <xs:pattern value="REQUEST2"/>
>    </xs:restriction>
> </xs:simpleType>
> 
> <xs:simpleType name="req1Typ">
>    <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>       <xs:pattern value="REQUEST2"/>
>    </xs:restriction>
> </xs:simpleType>
> 
> <xs:complexType name req1DatTyp>
>    <xs:sequence>
>       <xs:element name="REQ1_DAT1"/>
>       <xs:element name="REQ1_DAT2"/>
>       ...
>    <xs:sequence>
> </xs:complexType>
> 
> <xs:complexType name req2DatTyp>
>    <xs:sequence>
>       <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT1"/>
>       <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT2"/>
>       <xs:element name="REQ2_DAT3"/>
>       ...
>    <xs:sequence>
> </xs:complexType>
> 
> <xs:complexType name req3DatTyp>
>    <xs:sequence>
>       <xs:element name="REQ3_DAT1"/>
>       ...
>    <xs:sequence>
> </xs:complexType>
> 
> 
> <xs:complexType name="choice_on_aggregation" >
>    <xs:choice>
>       <xs:sequence>
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND" type="req1Typ">
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND_DATA" type="req1DatTyp">
>       </xs:sequence>
>       <xs:sequence>
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND" type="req2Typ">
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND_DATA" type="req1DatTyp">
>       </xs:sequence>
>       <xs:sequence>
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND" type="req3Typ">
>          <xs:element name="COMMAND_DATA" type="req1DatTyp">
>       </xs:sequence>
>    </xs:choice>
> </xs:complexType>
> 
> <element name"GLOBAL" type="choice_on_aggregation"/>
> 
> 
> But though my xml editor ( xmlspy ) reported this to be a valid schema, when I 
> used its 'generate sample XML' feature, it ended up generating xml that did not 
> comply with the schema !!
> When I used xerces to validate I got an error like
> 
> "http://www.bellsouth.com/wfaif":COMMAND and "http://www.bellsouth.com/wfaif":COMMAND (or elements from their substitution group) violate "Unique Particle Attribution". During validation against this schema, ambiguity would be created for those two particles"
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> --sony
> 
> 
> 
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