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you guys should talk about this on music-bar:
http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/music-bar/
j.
At 11:07 -0500 7/1/2004, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
><Quote1>
>Music is programming and that is why it analogizes so well to computer
>geekery.
></Quote1>
>
>FWIW, I've been a musician since age 5 (variety of instruments, plus
>voice), and I found programming to be a very natural fit for me from the
>start.
>
><Quote2>
>Drummers and bass players are semi-sentient vegetables. They don't
>program well. ;-)
></Quote2>
>
>I hope I'm an exception - I went through a jazz bass phase in late high
>school. :)
>
>Kind Regards,
>Joe Chiusano
>Booz | Allen | Hamilton
>Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>
>"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" wrote:
> >
> > Drummers and bass players are semi-sentient vegetables. They
> > don't program well. ;-)
> >
> > Music is programming and that is why it analogizes
> > so well to computer geekery. History teaches analytical
> > skills for human contexts and that analogizes well to the
> > kinds of analysis one does when creating production-worthy
> > systems. Lawyers know where the money is. At the end
> > of the day, programming isn't that hard to learn and law
> > is. One sees many 12 year old kids programming
> > and few practicing law.
> >
> > Most of the spectacular failures of the computing
> > industry involved designers so absorbed in the depths of
> > set theory, turing machines, the perfect one pass
> > parse, who can write the fastest algorithm, and so on
> > that they forget that humans create, use and pay for
> > the information. The spectacular winning technologies
> > make it easier for them to do that even if it costs the
> > programmer some time in machine cycles or skateboarding.
> >
> > Powerpoint makes it easy to produce a decent looking
> > presentation. It can't make a dumb author smarter but
> > it won't make a smart audience dumber. It might bore
> > them but not as much as bad phrasing and a whiny or
> > monotone voice.
> >
> > XML makes life easier for programmers and harder for
> > humans. That is why it is a technology in search
> > of a human audience. It made the programmers feel
> > smarter and the user interface feel dumber.
> >
> > len
> >
> > From: Bob Wyman [mailto:bob@wyman.us]
> >
> > Claude L. Bullard wrote:
> > > The best grounding, IMO, for programming if nothing
> > > else is provided is symbolic logic. Otherwise,
> > > history and music.
> > I remember reading a research paper many years ago that
> > discussed this subject. The curious thing was that they claimed that
> > not all music was a good background for programming. The claim was
> > that people that played woodwinds and strings ended up being better at
> > coding then others. Percussionists were at the bottom of the list as
> > well as some of the brass instruments (including Tuba -- which was my
> > instrument...) An attempt was made in the paper to explain the
> > difference. The best explanation they could come up with was based on
> > the idea that the woodwinds, etc. had to deal with shorter notes and
> > thus had to have a deeper appreciation of the pattern, system or
> > complexity of the music than those who played instruments which
> > focused on longer notes. This paper was a long time ago, so don't ask
> > me for more details...
> >
> > Something that I've noticed over the years is that the
> > programming business has a lot of ex-lawyers in it. Many of the ones
> > that I've worked with have been among the best coders I've known...
> >
> > bob wyman
> >
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