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Title: RE: [xml-dev] WS-Emperor naked?
You seem to have missed my post that OASIS approval process for a standard requires three member companies to vouch for using the spec successfully, which also happens to mean interoperably, as in it being read, loaded and displaying each company's web services portlets. For WSRP that included: * BEA * Citrix * Fujitsu * IBM * Oracle * Plumtree * Sun *  Vignette. For a loooong set of example portlets from Oracle see: 


To view Oracle's interoperability test site, inlcuding samples of WSRP/JSR168 compatible portlets visit:


For IBM's WSRP test kit:


For the Portlet Open Source Trading Post (for wsrp -conformant/compliant portlets) started by Ross Fubini of Plumtree:


Citrix also has resources for .Net.

Obviously, I only speak to WSRP interoperability, though I believe WS-A is fairly well accepted for the run of that WS-I's specs. WS-Eventing could prove worthy, but I hate the names Source and Sink--like voodoo hocuspocus when its just another pub-sub model. As for all the frameworks, I'll reserve judgement, but I like WSBPEL's chances of providing substantial interoperable value for business rules within web services and web apps running inside web services.


At 4:51 PM +0100 4/3/04, Paul Sumner Downey wrote:
What seems to be lost in all this "flower blooming" is
the notion of interoperability - the only reason to even
look at Web services.

No one is going to use *any* of these specs, regardless of
how great they are or who publishes them if they don't
interoperate - and i mean in product shipped by a wide
variety of vendors, not just on paper or in some one-off
fest held behind closed doors.


Paul Sumner Downey

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@textuality.com]
Sent: 02 April 2004 21:04
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org DEV
Subject: [xml-dev] WS-Emperor naked?

Would anyone here like to argue that the list found in


is coherent, or sensible, or viable, or generally that the parrot is
not dead?


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