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i agree with all of that. so far all this technology has just given me a
neater way of doing things, but not a smarter way.
i feel like the technology is at ape intelligence - way short of human
intelligence.
rick
Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>As I scroll through the latest round of Web services vs REST debates,
>it's like watching the American presidential election. I read articles
>which attempt to characterize the complexity of web services with
>page counts of the specs, but they don't explain how the alternatives
>will support the complexities of large scale enterprise applications.
>Or they say, 'we don't do those so we don't care' which is fine but
>worthless as critique.
>
>In other words, no one seems to deal with the issues, they are just
>banging away at the reputation of their opposition and no matter
>how one dresses that up, it is just demogoguery intended to confuse
>the marketplace.
>
>A feedback loop for learning requires one to be willing to learn.
>That means measurements of the problem, not measurements of the
>containers.
>
>So far, I haven't seen much about the semantic web services that I can't
>do with code except reuse the code blindly. So I am a bit sceptical
>of the immediate utility, but I've been wrong before about things like
>that. On the other hand, with regards to web services, from where I
>sit, there are immediate needs to apply this technology and I am not
>concerned that major vendors are pulling away into small teams to
>get the work done faster. I am very concerned that policy for its
>application (eg, privacy guidelines, retention guidelines, access
>guidelines, and so on) are not being created particularly in the
>U.S.A. where the implementations will penetrate the systems fast
>once we are past the upcoming election. In a millieu in which it
>has become acceptable to deny facts, fudge measurements, and otherwise
>just bang on the opposition without regard to the reality of the
>situation on the ground, I am pessimistic about how well this
>conflation of technical politics and governance will work out in
>the near term. To use a feedback loop, one has to be willing
>to learn not just redirect fire on the same target.
>
>len
>
>From: Rick Marshall [mailto:rjm@zenucom.com]
>
>all the ws-* stuff and all the owl stuff will need similar feedback
>loops for learning. they will need to cope with generalities and
>specifics. they will need access to computer equivalents of google and
>they will need a way to evaluate the results.
>
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