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   Re: [xml-dev] Web Services/SOA (was RE: [xml-dev] XML 2004 weblog items?

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While I absolutely agree with Rich, it's still true that
contribution to the standards process is restricted.

A year ago, on this list, I suggested moving off xml 1.0
onto xml 1.1 or xml 2.0.

In polite terms I was told to take a hike because I wasn't
allowed to contribute.


W3C makes no secret of of trying to "control" internet
protocols. By definition it wants to put the brakes on
anything else.

But it's a big world. People shouldn't complain about
these restrictions, just go and find some other people
that will listen (and pay for stuff).

It's a big world....


Quoting Rich Salz <rsalz@datapower.com>:

> > Well, I think it means that many well-intentioned developers, who want
> > to contribute to the Web services vision, aren't being given a
> > consistent (or even coherent) message about how exactly they should go
> > about doing that.  And I don't see anything happening now to remedy
> > that.
> Ah c'mon, you've been in the field long enough to know better.
> Given the capitalistic and competitive nature of this field, I think we've
> made amazing progresss in the past 15-20 years.  We have a global
> interconnected network with a single protocol suite, as opposed to islands
> with protocol gateways.  We can exchange mail messages, files, and web
> pages, so we have some interopable applications.  We now have a single
> data representation, so we can exchange structured data essentially
> anywhere.
> We don't have a single programming language (not PL/I, C, Ada, Java, or
> C#), we don't have a single programming model for local programs either.
> Why expect a globally consistent message for how to do distributed
> computing over the Internet?
> I suspect your post was a stalking horse for a REST discussion...
> 	/r$
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