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> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.lyon@computergrid.net
> [mailto:david.lyon@computergrid.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:12 PM
> To: Rich Salz
> Cc: Mark Baker; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Web Services/SOA (was RE: [xml-dev]
> XML 2004 weblog items?)
>
>
> While I absolutely agree with Rich, it's still true that
> contribution to the standards process is restricted.
>
> A year ago, on this list, I suggested moving off xml 1.0 onto
> xml 1.1 or xml 2.0.
>
> In polite terms I was told to take a hike because I wasn't
> allowed to contribute.
>
> Whatever....
>
> W3C makes no secret of of trying to "control" internet
> protocols. By definition it wants to put the brakes on anything else.
>
> But it's a big world. People shouldn't complain about these
> restrictions, just go and find some other people that will
> listen (and pay for stuff).
So you're thinking that membership in standards consortiums such as W3C
and OASIS (trying not to re-open "what really is a standards consortium"
permathread) should be free for all? I would support that, especially if
the money that my company pays for OASIS membership could be added
directly into my salary. :)
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
> It's a big world....
>
> David
>
>
>
> Quoting Rich Salz <rsalz@datapower.com>:
>
> > > Well, I think it means that many well-intentioned developers, who
> > > want to contribute to the Web services vision, aren't
> being given a
> > > consistent (or even coherent) message about how exactly
> they should
> > > go about doing that. And I don't see anything happening now to
> > > remedy that.
> >
> > Ah c'mon, you've been in the field long enough to know better.
> >
> > Given the capitalistic and competitive nature of this
> field, I think
> > we've made amazing progresss in the past 15-20 years. We have a
> > global interconnected network with a single protocol suite,
> as opposed
> > to islands with protocol gateways. We can exchange mail messages,
> > files, and web pages, so we have some interopable applications. We
> > now have a single data representation, so we can exchange
> structured
> > data essentially anywhere.
> >
> > We don't have a single programming language (not PL/I, C,
> Ada, Java,
> > or C#), we don't have a single programming model for local
> programs either.
> > Why expect a globally consistent message for how to do distributed
> > computing over the Internet?
> >
> > I suspect your post was a stalking horse for a REST discussion...
> >
> > /r$
> > --
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