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- To: Benjamin Franz <snowhare@nihongo.org>
- Subject: Re: [xml-dev] The Airplane Example (was Re: [xml-dev] Streaming XML)
- From: Rick Marshall <rjm@zenucom.com>
- Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 10:08:57 +1100
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Benjamin Franz wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, M. David Peterson wrote:
>
>> That and your not going to die if something goes wrong with each
>> built-in safety-switch in your test code... Its hard for me to think
>> of the implications of failed code compared to implications of a
>> failed flight. Please don't take offense by this as I understand what
>> it is you are suggesting but still have a hard time comparing a
>> computer crash to a plane crash.
>
>
> You should subscribe to the Risks Digest. More that a couple of deaths
> are attributable to broken software.
>
> People treat software like it isn't real. Software machines are just
> as real as hardware machines - and often control hardware machines. If
> you are killed by a radiation therapy machine because of broken
> software - you are just as dead as if the cause was broken hardware.
> <URL:http://www.ccnr.org/fatal_dose.html>
>
> And yes - commercial planes _HAVE_ crashed where one of the proximate
> causes was broken software (accidents are rarely 'one thing' - they
> are usually two or more things in unusual combination): Put American
> Airlines Flight 965 into a search engine.
>
> I'm of the opinion that software is where engineering was about a
> century ago: In demand, unregulated, and open to anyone who wants to
> call themselves a 'programmer', regardless of skill or training.
> Disasters directly traceable to poor 'engineering' by people with
> neither skill or training killed a number of people and laws were
> passed restricting who can legally call themselves an 'engineer'.
>
> By the end of this century, I will be amazed if you will still be able
> to call yourself a 'software engineer/progammer' without a legally
> mandated certification, license and professional standards.
i was hoping for that at the end of the last century.
rick
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