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Hi Dare,

On Friday 28 January 2005 10:29 am, Dare Obasanjo wrote:
> XML on the wire? You mean like RSS or EBay & Amazon's web services which
> account for a significant amount of their traffic?

As I keep saying, big business can be very good at using xml and other clever 
technology. It's a no brainer....

but take the same stuff to a small company and the outcomes aren't always
the same.

I usually argue for better xml stuff for the small companies... the bigger
companies tend to be quite well provided for as is... I'm sure you know
this...

> It seems all you are claiming is that XML isn't replacing EDI ....

I haven't even mentioned EDI on this list.... you must be thinking of what
somebody else has said... or just want to start and argument :-)

> existing distributed application deployments as was hyped by the XML and
> web services hypesters from yesteryear. 

There are some vague memories coming back on that... but a lot of stuff
starts out as science fiction and then gets figured out later by some
garage hacks.

Aeroplanes were "hype" for hundreds if not thousands of years. So was
the V8 motor and lot's of other things....

I know we've had "distributed transaction coordinators" in our O/S for
years and that they don't really do anything useful until they were
hijacked by the crackers....

surely everybody knows that most grid computing apps are by and
large trivial. ie hype.

But just because aeroplanes didn't fly doesn't mean that they never
could.

If you have the specification for Grid software in the business sense
then it all seems so simple. It makes you wonder what was wrong
with the people of yesteryear... what was their problem.

Maybe those scientists were dreamers and didn't have the computers
to do what they wanted. Maybe it wasn't as simple as it first seemed.

I can assure you that it ain't easy doing xml programming in a
business setting. If something is going to take much longer than
six months then your project has a good chance of being
thrown in the can.

anyway... trust me.... there are people that will be quite happy
to listen to the hypsters and then go and figure out a way
to make it work....

they just sit there listening and think.. yeah.. it would be really
cool to have one of those things.....

whose fault is that?

> Whether that translates to XML 
> on the wire isn't growing that fast is another kettle of fish.

kettles... wires and fish.... 

sounds like another good campfire story.....

-- 
Computergrid : The ones with the most connections win.




 

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