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In our case we pretty much just refer to ISO 11179 as the origin of our rules
and then enumerate the rules used which comes out to probably 20 pages. So we
don't necessarily have bloat. The problem is dogmatic use of these rules which
I've seen lead to some pretty unusable names. I think Jonathan Barwell had some
sensible suggestions on those lines.
That said the thunk factor is obviously important in the context of how much
benefit one derives in relation to the number of pages in a spec. The benefits
of reading and using the ISO specs are all pretty much soft benefits and I doubt
they will very appealing to people for these reasons.
--
Bryan Rasmussen
Citat Marc de Graauw <marc@marcdegraauw.com>:
> | I believe that this criterion (sometimes called the "thunk
> | factor") is a completely erroneous way of evaluating
> | specifications that fails to take into account other factors.
> |
> | Joe
>
> I do not believe I suggested taking the page count as a sole criterion for
> evaluating standards. I believe the naming standard is too long, and I
> illustrated this with a page count. There is plenty of merit in especially
> the UBL NDR, but the length of those kind of standards is IMO a main factor
> hindering their acceptance.
>
> Marc
>
> |
> | ________________________________
> |
> | From: Marc de Graauw [mailto:marc@marcdegraauw.com]
> | Sent: Fri 6/10/2005 6:12 AM
> | To: 'Bryan Rasmussen'; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> | Subject: RE: [xml-dev] ISO 11179
> |
> |
> |
> | | Please, any commentaries on ISO 11179 usage either for or against.
> | |
> | | Bryan Rasmussen
> |
> | I work on a project which uses the UBL Naming & Design
> | Rules. Those are based on the ebXML CCTS, which in turn is
> | based on ISO 11179 (which as such does not contain anything
> | about XML). So I need to read and understand:
> |
> | ISO 11179 Part 1 - 32 pages
> | ISO 11179 Part 2 - 16 pages
> | ISO 11179 Part 3 - 108 pages
> | ISO 11179 Part 4 - 16 pages
> | ISO 11179 Part 5 - 20 pages
> | ISO 11179 Part 6 - 72 pages
> | ebXML Core Components Technical Specification - 113 pages
> | UBL Naming & Design Rules - 104 pages
> |
> | So I have one critique: bloat.
> |
> | Marc
> |
> | (Now, I could count the pages for this other project where I
> | have to understand XML + XSD + SOAP + WSDL + WS-Security +
> | WS-Reliability + ... , come to think of it, the naming stuff
> | above might not be that bad at all :-)
> |
> |
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