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Actually, they are that high.  During the 'mad era', very 
big contracts have been let that require the use of XML. 
Take a look at EDXL, CAP, GML, SensorML and inquire if these 
make sense given the speeds required and the video payloads.
XML doesn't make sense in some of this.  The trick is to 
figure out where:  hint, the closer you get to real time, 
the less sense markup makes.

Java doesn't rule.  In fact, in lots of these contracts, 
it doesn't count.  Microsoft has to take the credit and 
the blame for what is about to happen.  Speeding up XML 
and compressing the payloads is a big deal.  Those who 
don't think XML Binary is going to happen are putting 
rocks in a river that will simply flow around them.

I have a sense when reading this thread that we are 
talking about programmers and systems that are small, 
one-off, don't have to scale, and aren't integrated. 
When size really matters, the programmers accept the 
trade-offs because if they don't, they look for new 

Are you a turtle?  You bet your sweet a** you are.


From: Uche Ogbuji [mailto:Uche.Ogbuji@fourthought.com]

On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:46 -0500, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> Nope.  The contracts have taken control away from 
> the programmers.  Do As You Will Under The Law.
> Programmers aren't the top of the food chain 
> anymore.  That's soooooo 90s.

If Java programmers ditch Ant for something less stultifying, no sane
manager in the world is going to tell them "NO!  You *must* use Ant
because it's XML based".  It doesn't matter where programmers are in the
food chain.  Stakes are not high enough for The Will Of The Law.


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