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> From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:37 AM
> To: 'bryan rasmussen'
> Cc: XML Developers List
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Semantic Web for the Masses, by the Masses
> It's been some time since TimBL was actually driving the
> evolution of the web. He doesn't buy anything big enough to do that.
> No one notices because the forces that do drive the evolution
> tend to be on the requirements side of the boundary and what
> the majority notice is what the publication machinery
> notices. Find a dispute, trot out a luminary, case closed,
> move on to next newsworthy dispute. Resolved? Ok. What
> *drives* evolution of the web? I am picking terms carefully there.
> Are SOA and Semantic web different technologies?
In general, yes - because SOA as an architectural paradigm does not
require any Web capabilities. Of course, they can be the same in some
cases - e.g. semantic Web Services (the work of the fairly new OASIS
Semantic Execution Environment (SEE) TC).
> Are they separately required (I did not say specified or
I believe yes, given my comments above.
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> From: bryan rasmussen [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> >All of the
> > decisions that determine the direction of the evolution of the web
> >are being made by people who never write a line of code. I
> know the
> >myth is otherwise and it is a very useful myth, but it is exactly
> >that and no more.
> Are some of these decisions made by people who have written a
> line of code? No waitaminute, I think I saw a blog post
> lately where Tim Berners-Lee munged together some script to
> do some little thing. Does this count as writing code, and is
> he high enough level in the not so far clarified hierarchy of
> the world you seem to be referring to that he can be said to
> have something to do with the evolution of the web?
> Do these people who make decisions without ever writing code
> ask for position papers from people who sometimes writes code
> (for some values of the term 'code')? Or do they sometimes
> just whitestamp something on the basis of what someone who
> writes code (infrequently I'm sure) tells them?
> Do the people who write position papers for the non-code
> writers to consume and consider before coming with their
> decisions ever interact with people who do their little blog
> stuff? I think it might be an ecosystem, at least enough of
> one that blanket denunciations of the myth are disputable.
> Then again I agree the possession of authority by blogging in
> some folks does lead to grandiose visions of influence.
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