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why dont all of us fix them by patenting everything we have and donating
it to the open system. It is the only way to survive in this world.
Patents have taken all of the jobs and most of the substance from the
American People.
sterling
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> Here's what should scare the everloving heck out of you:
>
> The companies implementing Semantic Web technology are PATENTING it
> as fast as they can. So those middle tier business objects
> implemented over services corresponding to these definitions will
> be unavailable except from those vendors who get to the business
> rules first. The survival response will be to create all new terms
> that fog over the essential claims reference chain such that
> the same functions are provided but there is no ontological
> unification.
>
> That means the Semantic Web is an evolutionary dead-end. Kaput.
>
> len
>
>
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
>
> > Patterns of communication abstracted from their
> > implementations are describable without reference to The Web
> > or mechanisms implemented to use URIs, TCP/IP etc. just as
> > the SOA RM can be described without reference to web
> > services. The SOA RM is SOA's analog to XML's infoset (not
> > buyable, but definitional).
> >
> > The use of the SOA RM acts as an upper ontology (really,
> > terms and definitions) which can then be used in descriptions
> > of Enterprise SOA (the services comprising a business of some
> > type). The Enterprise SOA is then used as the basis for
> > describing services to be procured. The vendor answers with
> > a set of possibly web services or other implementations that
> > meet the requirements of the Enterprise SOA. What you can
> > actually price are forms, reports, fields, interfaces,
> > hardware services and licenses.
> >
>
> AMEN!!!
>
> Kind Regards,
> Joseph Chiusano
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@intergraph.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:41 PM
> > To: 'Peter Hunsberger'; Costello, Roger L.
> > Cc: XML Developers List
> > Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Utilizing the Web's Whole Information
> > Space, i.e., Mechanisms/Patterns of Information Usage and Formation?
> >
> > I was trying very hard to stay out of this but since my name
> > was invoked, leathery winged thing that I am, I am compelled
> > to answer.
> >
> > ... explosion from smoke box, low strings and horns with slow
> > timpani pulse in unison crescendo to brass section fanfare
> > and cymbal crash (really kitchy stuff)
> >
> > <sigh>The Web is information resources identified by URIs.</sigh>
> >
> > ... wild applause at the obvious simple brilliance of that
> > with flowers thrown at feet of The Director and some
> > discussion in the box seats of giving him yet another prize
> > with a $ amount and an opportunity to speak to the general
> > assembly of the UN...
> >
> > You don't really want to open up that discussion again.
> >
> > Mechanisms will mean real things like clients and servers,
> > yes? Unless you assume those definitions, then this is a
> > discussion of as one said, computer science or just patterns
> > of open integrated hypermedia systems. The Web hasn't
> > contributed anything new to that domain in terms of patterns
> > of information use and formation, so 'emergence' isn't
> > exactly right: repackaged, relabeled and patented are. We
> > knew how to build component architectures a long time ago.
> > "THE WEB" == URI. Full stop.
> >
> > Patterns of communication abstracted from their
> > implementations are describable without reference to The Web
> > or mechanisms implemented to use URIs, TCP/IP etc. just as
> > the SOA RM can be described without reference to web
> > services. The SOA RM is SOA's analog to XML's infoset (not
> > buyable, but definitional).
> >
> > The use of the SOA RM acts as an upper ontology (really,
> > terms and definitions) which can then be used in descriptions
> > of Enterprise SOA (the services comprising a business of some
> > type). The Enterprise SOA is then used as the basis for
> > describing services to be procured. The vendor answers with
> > a set of possibly web services or other implementations that
> > meet the requirements of the Enterprise SOA. What you can
> > actually price are forms, reports, fields, interfaces,
> > hardware services and licenses.
> >
> > So if this is a Pattern RM, one could start with:
> >
> > o Publish/Subscribe
> >
> > o Call/Response
> >
> > o Get
> >
> > o Post
> >
> > o Push
> >
> > o Pull
> >
> > You aren't by any chance looking for the MEPs As Yet To Be
> > Named By URIs are you?
> >
> > len
> >
> >
> > From: Peter Hunsberger [mailto:peter.hunsberger@gmail.com]
> >
> > Huh? "physical virtual layer"?
> >
> > You mean the layer that isn't really there?
> >
> > (Maybe we can get Len to set it to music.)
> >
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