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   Re: [xml-dev] XML Performance in a Transacation

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  • To: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>, xml-dev@lists.xml.org
  • Subject: Re: [xml-dev] XML Performance in a Transacation
  • From: Tatu Saloranta <cowtowncoder@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:35:13 -0800 (PST)
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--- Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au> wrote:

> That is why, ultimately, the current XML efficiency
> problem is not with 
> technology: not APIs, algorithms, CPU instruction
> sets. The XML 
> efficiency problem is with motivating researchers
> and open source 
> developers into areas that match corporate business
> requirements. 

With all due respect, this is undermining existing
efforts that do try to address various problems.
Many of people discussing approaches are actively
working on various parts of the problem; although I'm
most familiar with Wolfgang's and Michael's work, I am
sure others are as well. And at least these two seem
to be doing quite well in their respective fields.

Also, even if we disagree to a degree on relative
merits of various points of optimizations, I doubt any
one of us is convinced to stop working on our
'favourite' areas, perceived bottlenecks. If someone
wants to focus on perfecting byte-by-byte level
close-to-hardware utf-8 - to - xml - tokens
transcoding, great! Once results are in, we'll see the
benefits. If outsiders think this is a stumbling block
then so be it: I am less worried about perception than
actual motion towards the goal. But then again, xml is
just a hobby for me, not my bread and butter.

Finally, not all progress is done in public by
(academic) researchers, either. If and when there are
business opportunities (which seems to be the case for
efficient xml message processing -- IBM is making
killing selling their expensive hardware, n'est pas?),
there is and will be progress. Value of prices like
X-prices, or D-Arpa's vehicle challenge, is lately
hyped to stratosphere. It will take a while to
objectively evaluate true value. So while here, too, I
think it would be interesting to see some prices, I do
not see lack of such prices as a block that prevents
progress. But if such prices come available, great;
the more approaches the merrier!

-+ Tatu +-



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