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   Re: Why is there little usage of XML on the 'visible Web'?

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On 7/20/06, Bullard, Claude L (Len) <len.bullard@intergraph.com> wrote:
> Dead wrong.  The use of X3D/VRML is growing nicely.
> len

Maybe. But for 10+ years whas dead.  And the support is still limited.
For my Firefox(1.5 linux) browser seem theres no plugin.

Vendors use Macromedia Flash to sell cars:

And I dont like much how VRML render landscapes:

Heres how I render landscapes (not my code, trough)

Here is a fun thread about vrml to make a 3d mud:

Its a 1994 thread.

Here is a Slashdot post about the Second Life launch:
I kinda hope one of these guys will succeed, but on the other hand,
I'd like to see this sort of thing evolve on it's own.

5 years or so I remember there were a ton of these little virtual
community type ventures using VRML.. nothing much really happened with
them. Lately it seems that they're starting to crop up again.
There.com, this thing, and there have a been a few others I've heard
about.. activeworlds or something.

I don't think the open ended virtual community stuff (as opposed to
something with a "purpose" like Everquest) is going to really take off
until we can really "jack-in"

The idea has merit, and it WILL succeed one day, but I hope this isn't
wholly sponsored by some commercial entity, but ends up being more
like a 3d web (like vrml was supposed to do, right?).

For people that as been frezzed on ice the last 5 yeas, yes.. Second
Life whas sucesfull.

To some people VRML seems something of the past:
The flesh hurting tagline is:
"Tao Takashi is now entering Second Life as it seems a natural
extension to the VRML experiments back then. Interactions are far more
easily possible now, streaming is not cutting edge anymore and thus
reliably working and possibilities seem infinite."


VRML need to take off really fast and kick really hard to win to World
of Warcraft + Second Life.

I think VRML can fill a niche, but the BMV niche has been already
fullfilled with flash, and the videogame morpg has been fullfilled
with OpenGL/DirectX. The niche that VRML seems to fit well is web
experimentation, scientific, goverment,..   Its not like that niches
are big enough so I dont think the VRML plugin with X3D support will
be widen support for ...welll eons.

If you make a Golf game that render landscapes, your HTML render will
support 100% of browser, no plugin needed, with Flash will be 9X% but
VRML will be like 00.X%
As a Linux user, I dont support Flash because Macromedia will
discontinue the support for Linux (not Flash 9 for me), hee... maybe I
can try that VRML thing.. wait, theres not plugin for Firefox on
Linux. See? HTML win again.

> >. If you use VRML, only +-40 guys around
> > the world will be able to see your image.


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