Re: [xml-dev] Political opinions and this list

[Dennis Sosnoski <dms@sosnoski.com>]

I personally apologize for dragging Karl Rove in on the OOXML thread,
which I gather was the cause of this plea. From my standpoint it was a
succinct way of suggesting that the types of political practices which
have become common in U.S. politics over the last 8 years or so now seem
to be expanding into the area of XML standards.

As for the rest of the thread, I think it's entirely appropriate. We
have a case where a new XML standard is being considered, and the
processes that are being used to establish that standard are certainly
germane to this list.

  - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
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Mark C. Allman wrote:
> My point is that this isn't the forum for digs at Microsoft,
> Democrats, Republicans, IBM, Oracle, Google, Socialists, etc., etc. 
> There are other places to vent frustrations.  It distracts from the
> topic at hand.
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> BTW, this is just a request.  To Len's point: yea, it's a part of
> business.  I "do the dance" as part of my job as a project manager.  A
> necessary evil.  It'd just be a bit of a relief not to have to skip
> over cheap shots here as well.
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> -- *Mark C. Allman, PMP*
> -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc.
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> On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 12:13 -0400, John F Covin wrote:
>> I agree with Mark Allman. I understand your sentiment, Len. However,
>> shouldn’t there be a better forum for those developing the standards
>> to discuss this particular behind-the-scenes detail of what goes on
>> to develop the standards? I do not see how a discussion of this
>> aspect of the standard process helps the community at large that is
>> interested only in learning about how to understand and use the
>> technology.
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>> Passing it along in this forum seems to be perpetuating the ‘tar
>> ball’ so to speak.
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>> John
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>> *From:* Len Bullard [mailto:cbullard@hiwaay.net]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:31 AM
>> *To:* mcallman@allmanpc.com; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
>> *Subject:* RE: [xml-dev] Political opinions and this list
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>> Politics are part of business and standards have become a weapon of
>> choice.   Delete and endure.
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>> len
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>> *From:* Mark C. Allman [mailto:mcallman@allmanpc.com]
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>> Could we please keep the political jabs off this list?  I subscribed
>> to read about XML topics.
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>> Thanks.
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>> -- *Mark C. Allman, PMP*
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>> -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc.
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