RE: [xml-dev] The year is 2027, and we need to examine archived XML docu

["Paul Kiel" <paul@xmlhelpline.com>]

Very interesting thread.  Before getting into the data integration space, I
was trained as an Archivist.  Indeed, the profession is has long been
looking very closely at Xml as a long term storage format.

In fact, I did some coding for the state of north Carolina to prototype the
conversion of email messages from the governor's office into Xml for
archival storage.  So in 2027 (or 2927), all that is necessary to manage
these files is to understand Unicode/ascii.  None of today's software is
needed.

And today, archivists use Xml for metadata about primary resource materials.
Their standard, called EAD (Encoded Archival Description) as been around
since 1997 - and which was the spec that got me interested in Xml (or at
least sgml until xml 1.0 came out the following year).  It isn't the
archival storage format, but it is a metadata format and shows their
interest in Xml.  It is only natural that they would see the value for long
term storage.

0.02 from a former archivist,
Paul Kiel




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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Marshall [mailto:rjm@zenucom.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:52 PM
To: Michael Champion
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] The year is 2027, and we need to examine archived XML
documents from 2007 ...

no because the archive must be complete without external reference and 
it must not require execution of embedded code (eg javascript) - at 
least to make an old hacker like me happy that the archive is what 
someone saw/would have seen at the time it was created.

Rick

Michael Champion wrote:
> Wouldn't (X)HTML meet these requirements?
>
> */Rick Marshall <rjm@zenucom.com>/* wrote:
>
>     Hi
>
>     So, instead of fighting over ODF/OOXML which can survive with or
>     without
>     each other, perhaps ISO/W3C/OASIS/IETF etc should focus on a
>     (possibly)
>     XML based archive format for documents and data which preserves basic
>     layout, links, binary objects (like jpg, avi, etc) as part of the
>     format. Open Office and Microsoft can conform to Government
>     requirements
>     by having a "Save Archive" option.
>
>     All sorts of applications, not just office functions could target the
>     archive format for long term storage and searching.
>
>     Rick
>
>     PS This is not a request to return to SGML, although it could once
>     again
>     be the starting point.
>
>     Richard Salz wrote:
>     >> Should entities, Xinclude statements, and links be avoided in
>     2007 if
>     >> we wish for XML documents to be usable in 2027?
>     >>
>     >
>     > The issue behind this question is not a fundamentally new one.
>     Very few
>     > documents exist apart from any context, and the legal systems
>     know how to
>     > deal with taht.
>     >
>     > /r$
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