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RE: [xml-dev] "XML is just syntax" versus "Use semantic markup" (Is this a paradox?)

Precise, but concise? ;-)

A question:  to this model, does it matter if the processor is a producer vs
a consumer?  IOW, is an expression semantic-less unless consumed?  Does
intension evaporate post speech act?

The issue of frequency that Chomsky tried to deflect reappears because the
frequency is selected by the producer.  If markup is only the pointy bracket
bits, then we agree these have no semantics.

It's hard for me to accept that tag names at some frequency of expression
aren't content.  This is the gray area.


From: W. E. Perry [mailto:wperry@fiduciary.com] 
More precisely, semantics are elaborated from the marked-up text
('content' + markup) by the operation of a particular *process*, in a
particular environment, on a particular occasion, for presumably a
particular 'purpose' as determined by the operator of that process, in
that environment, on that occasion, and quite possibly entirely without
reference to the creator of the marked-up text, nor obedience to any
intention nor semantic import which that creator might have had or be
presumed to have. A semantic elaboration is an instance, and an
unlimited number of such diverging instances might be elaborated from
any particular text. The operation of the process is always one way:
from the text to the elaborated semantics. An instance of elaborated
semantics can no more establish the text from which is was elaborated
than the text can determine the semantics which might be elaborated from
it on a given occasion.


Walter Perry

"Costello, Roger L." wrote:

> Len Bullard wrote:
> > Markup does not apply semantics.   Semantics are applied to the
> markup.
> I like it!  Thanks Len!
> /Roger

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