RE: [xml-dev] Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup data" or "wr

["Mark Shellenberger" <mshellenberger@gmail.com>]

I agree that 'tagging' stuff seems a bit vulgar but it also gets across the
message to those that need said message.  I make a point of showing the
difference between element and tag in conversation regarding XML because
those two terms have specific different meanings.  

But how are 'to markup' or 'to tag' (in the sense of XML/HTML) different?
Or is it just a sensibility thing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre [mailto:dalapeyre@mulberrytech.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:38 PM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup data" or
"wrap data in tags"?

"Preferred" is such a slippery word. In my teaching experience
(no preference implied):

>1. I marked up the data.  - is the way the professionals in
this industry would say it. It sounds fine to most of us, but also
confuses many novices, even copyeditors.

>2, 3, and 4 are OK, but nobody talks like this in real life IMO

>5, 6, 7 have never been heard by me in the real world. I also
don't like them much (maybe I do have a preference after all)

The great unwashed (i.e. professionals in some other business
than this Markup stuff) would, I think, mostly agree with Mark,
they "tag" their data.

Overlap geeks have been heard to call it
   "applying inline markup"

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Yes, Steve, I agree that "to mark up" is a verb, but
even "markup" the noun has problems.

When Balisage wanted a subtitle to tell people what the
conference was actually about, we chose
   "Balisage:The Markup Conference".
Sounded good to us, because we wanted to express that it was more
than "Balisage: The XML Conference" since it was perfectly
fine to talk about microformats, SGML, non-XML-based mashups
and clouds, out-of-line-markup, LMNL, etc. But it left a lot of
people wondering what the conference WAS about, and we have had
some very odd email reactions and a bunch of business types
who do not view the UBL and other tag-related things that
they do as "markup". Markup is for text, not data is some eyes.
Odd old world.

--dal

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