Re: [xml-dev] XHTML 5 and validation

[David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>]

On 18/05/2011 21:34, Jesper Tverskov wrote:

> It has been confirmed in this thread, that we should not expect to get
> our XHTML5, option 1 or option 2, validated right away by clicking a
> button as we have been used to for 15 years. Many validators will
> require that we use a web-server or server-side code in order to get
> our XHTML validated using the "application/xhtml+xml" mimetype. That
> is a no go!

I don't understand why you say that at all. If it's an online validator 
like w3c's or validator.nu then the  mime type seems the right thing to 
use for a default. If you are validating locally then you can pass it to 
an xml or html tool at your choice. If I'm editing in emacs then nxml 
mode will be constantly validating to a relax schema without needing to 
press any button at all, and many other tools can do similar can't they?

>
> We might be lucky to find a Validator that has a lot of options, and
> some of us might be lucky to have the know-how to tweak its settings,
> in order to get validation without a webserver and server-side
> scripting.

a relax schema has already been developed as part of Henri's 
validator.nu effort and that could be converted to XSD if need be 
(possibly with some loss) and then many editing tools could offer 
validation without any webserver being in the loop. In fact the 
situation isn't really much different to that of xhtml is it?
>
> That is not how to win battles!

I wasn't aware we were at war.

>
> Cheers,
> Jesper Tverskov
> http://www.xmlplease.com
>

David