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Re: [xml-dev] what's missing in XML? What's coming?
- From: cbullard@hiwaay.net
- To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:50:39 -0600
True but it also means some new very large, complex and expensive
documents can not use XSD. I'm not defending Entity Declarations per
se, but the combinations of these, character entities and all the
problems of ensuring these can be handled by the enterprise software
do become onerous.
A tech pubs world where the XML never sees the web or a browser and
the documents are long lived and very slow (real publishing) seems to
be increasingly willing to lag behind.
It may be inevitable that XML becomes not just markup on the web, but
only markup on the web, meaning it may be time for military technical
publishing to reconsider it's early adopter commitments to markup. It
takes years to create and publish the guidance documents, the XSD is
barely documented despite being hundreds of pages long, making
substantial post-validation contributions and creating layouts,
resolving references, etc. vital to follow-on products (say, Class III
and IV IETMs). Enterprises with very large networks of users who are
also adopting new media distribution devices (say handyPhones) have to
consider cost benefits.
len
Quoting Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>:
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Rick Jelliffe
> <rjelliffe@allette.com.au> wrote:
>> 2) Clearer story on how to use the ISO/MathML entity sets along with XML
>> Schemas, or with no schemas. I often hear "XML Schemas does not support
>> entities, so I cannot use entities with XML Schemas" or vice versa.
>> Preferably, build the default mappings of the entities into XML.
>
> Adding entities to XML without DTDs would break the compatibility of
> new documents with old parsers. I think entities alone are not worth
> such a discontinuity.
>
> If there's a discontinuity that makes new documents potentially
> incompatible with old parser (but old documents stay compatible with
> new parsers), I think it makes sense to move to well-defined
> non-Draconian processing (XML5-style) while at it.
>
> --
> Henri Sivonen
> hsivonen@iki.fi
> http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
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