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RE: [xml-dev] XML Conference archives

Thanks John.  So it is a document that by it's nature is accepted as
what it is represented as because a) has been provably registered/signed
or b) is of a type that is not refutable (eg, the trade inscription) or
c) can be shown to be issued by an organization whose products are de
facto, authentic.

Digital signing seems appropriate for a.  Intermediaries are a problem
for c.  B seems to be a registry candidate although registration and
signing seem to be best in all cases.  As you know, copyright is
considered to be an inherent right the creator obtains at point of
creation.  In practice, registration is best.  It isn't cheap and that
is a problem.

A little offtopic, but the Google algorithms for determining if a
submission is "monetizable" are wonky.  The problems of copyright and
publishing to these "free services" as a part of the same problem as
above.  One might think with our technologies we can do better.   We
really haven't.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org] On Behalf Of John Cowan
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:34 PM
To: Len Bullard
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] XML Conference archives

Len Bullard scripsit:

> The notion of "self authentication" is ???

Also from WP:

A self-authenticating document, under the law of evidence in the United
States, is any document that can be admitted into evidence at a trial
without proof being submitted to support the claim that the document
is what it appears to be. Several categories of documents are deemed to
be self-authenticating:

1. Certified copy of public or business records;
2. Official publications of government agencies;
3. Newspaper articles;
4. Trade inscriptions, such as labels on products;
5. Acknowledged documents (wherein the signer also gets a paper
notarized); and
6. Commercial paper under the Uniform Commercial Code.

John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>             http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
"Make a case, man; you're full of naked assertions, just like
"Oh, i suffer from that, too.  But you know, naked assertions or GTFO."
                        --heard on #scheme, sorta

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