Re: [xml-dev] Percentage of web services supporting XML versus JSON

["Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>]

On 06/09/2014 10:24 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote:
> Loac says that a data format should have these properties:
>
> 	- Hyperlinks and link relations
>      	- Binary, explicit sizes, efficient to parse
>      	- Small, exponentially smaller the larger the data gets
>      	- Good type coverage, extensible
>      	- No NULL value
>      	- Fully specified
>
> Do you agree with those properties? Would you add other properties? Would you remove some of the properties?
For my purposes, binary imposes more costs than benefits.  I don't give 
a damn about types, but extensibility is crucial.

The piece that's deeply intriguing here, though, is:

"Small, exponentially smaller the larger the data gets"

The first signs I saw of trouble for XML were all around that 
conversation, as I got into the mapping space.  At that point, XML's 
doubling or tripling the cost of storage was a problem.  Today it's more 
about bandwidth.

If there's a way around that, it's a HUGE selling point.

Thanks,
Simon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 10:00 AM
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Percentage of web services supporting XML versus JSON
>
> Okay - Loic's talk is up, though he's in the middle of a conference.
>
> <http://ninenines.eu/talks/bed/bed.html>
>
> Why Not JSON? is slide 19. Why Not XML? is slide 22.
>
> He sketches out his (binary) alternative from 23 on.  I want to see a
> lot more detail, but I wish this had existed a decade ago if only for
> conversational use.
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>
>
> On 06/09/2014 09:49 AM, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
> > On 06/09/2014 09:44 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote:
> > > Loic says that JSON is "a terrible format" because:
> > I am so confused to see JSON defended on xml-dev... ;)
> >
> > I'll check in with Loic and see what he's actually proposing, then try
> > to bring something more complete back here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Simon
> >
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