Re: [xml-dev] Percentage of web services supporting XML versus JSON

Having EXI should have solved such issue but did not. As I understand its more a compression format and needs to be decompressed for parsing.

http://www.w3.org/XML/EXI/

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@simonstl.com> wrote:

On 06/09/2014 10:24 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote:

Loac says that a data format should have these properties:

- Hyperlinks and link relations
- Binary, explicit sizes, efficient to parse
- Small, exponentially smaller the larger the data gets
- Good type coverage, extensible
- No NULL value
- Fully specified

Do you agree with those properties? Would you add other properties? Would you remove some of the properties?

For my purposes, binary imposes more costs than benefits. I don't give a damn about types, but extensibility is crucial.

The piece that's deeply intriguing here, though, is:

"Small, exponentially smaller the larger the data gets"

The first signs I saw of trouble for XML were all around that conversation, as I got into the mapping space. At that point, XML's doubling or tripling the cost of storage was a problem. Today it's more about bandwidth.

If there's a way around that, it's a HUGE selling point.

Thanks,
Simon

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From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com]
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Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Percentage of web services supporting XML versus JSON

Okay - Loic's talk is up, though he's in the middle of a conference.

<http://ninenines.eu/talks/bed/bed.html>

Why Not JSON? is slide 19. Why Not XML? is slide 22.

He sketches out his (binary) alternative from 23 on. I want to see a
lot more detail, but I wish this had existed a decade ago if only for
conversational use.

Thanks,
Simon

On 06/09/2014 09:49 AM, Simon St.Laurent wrote:

On 06/09/2014 09:44 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote:

Loic says that JSON is "a terrible format" because:

I am so confused to see JSON defended on xml-dev... ;)

I'll check in with Loic and see what he's actually proposing, then try
to bring something more complete back here.

Thanks,
Simon

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