I
agree a Skype POP would be great!
Nick
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From: David RR Webber (XML)
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Sent: 23 May 2006 17:24
To: Duane
Nickull
Cc: Barbara Erbes; ; Scott
McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services questionnaire
Duane,
We talking at cross purposes here I believe - the discussion was "if we
did something -what might it be?" - information gathering. Not decision
process - Yes / No - to actually do it.
The beauty of Skype POP is zero cost for actual calls placed. For
those of us spending $100's monthly on international calls - this is a
critical factor.
If OASIS has a Skype # in country - its a free call via Skype, or just a
local call rate from a landline phone.
Clearly this is a big deal in encouraging overseas participation in TC
work.
DW
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Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire
From: "Duane Nickull"
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Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06 pm
To: "David
RR Webber (XML)"
<>,
<>
Cc:
"Barbara Erbes"
<>,
<>,
"Scott McGrath"
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Sorry – but I have
to disagree with this in principle. Yes – Skype is good and the cost
is very low but I do not think that OASIS should bother with the overhead of
being a conference call sponsor. Simply put, the costs will be greater
than if we continue organizing it ourselves and that cost has no other place
to be passed on than to us, the members.
IMO – it is much
more efficient for each TC to arrange their own resources for
meetings. Let OASIS keep focused on major issues like IPR, working
with other SDO’s, providing the web infrastructure (WIKI’s
etc).
My $0.02 CAD
worth.
Duane
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From: David
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:41
AM
To:
Cc: 'Barbara Erbes';
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Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire
Just a quick supplemental thought - internet
technology could be changing this landscape
(again).
I just purchased a standalone Skype phone by
Linksys / Cisco (not Skype thru the PC speakers et al). The
quality is dramatically better with Skype V2 than it was last year on Skype
V1.
OASIS could consider setting up local Skype dial-in
numbers in each member country?
The cost for each is modest. Maybe Cisco / Skype
could sponsor that for us?
DW
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Subject: Re:
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From:
Date: Mon, May 22, 2006 3:18 pm
To:
"Scott McGrath" <>
Cc: "'Barbara
Erbes'"
<>,
Scott,
Michael Winters, our IBM
OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as
well. If OASIS is striving to internationalize its membership more
assertively, there should not be a penalty for calling in from countries
that today have the fewest participation.
Don Harbison
Program
Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Business & Technical Strategy
IBM
Software Group
tel:1-978-399-7018
Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
email:
"Scott
McGrath" <>
05/22/2006 02:22
PM
To
<>
cc
"'Barbara
Erbes'" <>
Subject
[chairs] TC
Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire. If you have replied – thanks. If not, here is
your chance.
Scott…
Chairs,
We’ve heard the dialogue on the Chairs list about the problems
Committee teleconference costs pose for members – both for international
participants who dial in and for member organizations who volunteer to
host calls.
OASIS is investigating options for funding
Committee conference calls out of member dues. We have conducted a
preliminary analysis based on postings to our central events calendar,
information from our member databases, and the service quotes of several
service providers. This research indicates that the annual cost of
providing fully internationalized services for every call of every
Committee, could exceed 10% of our total operating budget (over 250,000
USD annually).
In
light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is vital that we take the
time to fully understand the expectations and circumstances of all our
Committees, so that we might identify alternatives to manage costs while
still addressing the majority of your needs.
To that end, we’re asking a representative of each OASIS Committee to
spend five minutes answering the following 16 questions on teleconference
usage. We appreciate that in many cases, the best you can offer is an
educated guess. That’s fine. Any information you provide—even if it can’t
be verified by detailed tracking or reports—will be helpful to us.
Only one reply per TC or
Sub-Committee is needed, so please coordinate your responses with
co-chairs and secretaries.
Thank you in advance for
your time,
Scott McGrath
Director Member Services
OASIS
Committee Teleconference Requirements Questionnaire
Committee Name: ODF Adoption TC
(If
you chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee, please fill out
this questionnaire separately for each.)
About
your teleconference use:
On average, how many
teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4)
How many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60 minutes)
Approximately how many minutes was the
longest call your Committee held in the past year? N/A
About
your teleconference callers:
How many callers typically participate in
your teleconferences from:
__5__ North America
__3___ Europe
__1___Asia
__0___Australia
_____Other
Do you believe the expense of
international (country-to-country) calling is a limiting factor for OASIS
Members to participate in the Committee you chair?
As a
new TC, we do not have sufficient experience to respond.
If so, can you cite specific examples?
About
your existing teleconference support
Does a member of your Committee
provide teleconference hosting? Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM.
If you are generally pleased with the
service your Committee uses most frequently, can you tell us the name of
the provider (and why you like them)?
If you are not
pleased with the service your Committee uses, can you tell us the name of
the provider (and why you are dissatisfied)?
Does
the teleconference service provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR INTERNATIONAL
TOLL-FREE? access in some areas?
Does your
teleconference service provide local numbers in more than one country?
Can you offer any advice about other
services you tried and discontinued?
Premiere previously
provided conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology
and has migrated to it.
About
future teleconference use and support
Given your current situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so,
do you think OASIS should provide teleconference services, funded by
member dues? Yes.
If OASIS could provide only limited
resources to solve the largest problems inhibiting member participation,
what do you think reasonable bounds would be?
Indicate your
acceptance of the following suggestions, on a scale of 1 to 5
(5
Meaning you would accept the idea, 1 being you would not accept the
idea)
_5__OASIS would provide international
service with in-country dial-in for all Committees, all calls.
_2_OASIS would provide a local dial-in line for the country in which
the majority of Committee members reside, others members pay their
international rates to dial-in.
_4_OASIS would continue to
encourage member organizations to host Committee calls and covers the
costs only when a Committee is unable to identify a host.
_1_OASIS
would encourage Committees to use free conferencing services (such as
freeconferencecall.com)
_1_OASIS would not provide any teleconference
service that will have a budget impact
Any other
comments or suggestions:
