RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire

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Date
2006-05-24T15:20:15+00:00
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RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
Not 
for the numbers that are on our calls.  A skype conference is limited to 
about 5 and there is no call in.

Nick

  
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From: Duane Nickull 
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Sent: 24 May 2006 16:02
To: 
  Nick Pope; David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: Barbara Erbes; 
  ; Scott McGrath; 
  
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference 
  Services questionnaire

  

  
 

  
And you 
  can do this today.  You don’t need OASIS to get involved to set it 
  up.

  
 

  
D

  

  
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From: Nick 
  Pope [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:45 
  AM
To: David RR Webber (XML); 
  Duane Nickull
Cc: Barbara 
  Erbes; ; Scott McGrath; 
  
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference 
  Services questionnaire

  
 

  

  
I agree a Skype POP 
  would be great!

  

  
 

  

  
Nick 
  

  
    
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    Message-----
From: David RR 
    Webber (XML) [mailto:]
Sent: 23 May 2006 17:24
To: Duane Nickull
Cc: Barbara Erbes; 
    ; Scott McGrath; 
    
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference 
    Services questionnaire

    

    
Duane,

    

    
 

    

    
We talking at cross purposes here I believe - the 
    discussion was "if we did something -what might it be?" - information 
    gathering.  Not decision process - Yes / No - to actually do 
    it.

    

    
 

    

    
The beauty of Skype POP is zero cost for actual 
    calls placed.  For those of us spending $100's monthly on international 
    calls - this is a critical factor.

    

    
 

    

    
If OASIS has a Skype # in country - its a free call 
    via Skype, or just a local call rate from a landline 
    phone.

    

    
 

    

    
Clearly this is a big deal in encouraging overseas 
    participation in TC work.

    

    
 

    

    
DW

    

    
      
 

      
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Subject: RE: 
      [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From: "Duane Nickull" 
      <>
Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06 pm
To: 
      "David RR Webber (XML)" 
      <>,
<>
Cc: 
      "Barbara Erbes" 
      <>,
<>, 
      "Scott 
      McGrath"
<>

      

      
Sorry – but I 
      have to disagree with this in principle.  Yes – Skype is good and the 
      cost is very low but I do not think that OASIS should bother with the 
      overhead of being a conference call sponsor.  Simply put, the costs 
      will be greater than if we continue organizing it ourselves and that cost 
      has no other place to be passed on than to us, the members.  
      

      
IMO – 
      it is much more efficient for each TC to arrange their own resources for 
      meetings.  Let OASIS keep focused on major issues like IPR, working 
      with other SDO’s, providing the web infrastructure (WIKI’s 
      etc).

      
My 
      $0.02 CAD worth.

      
Duane

      

      
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      - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
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From: 
      David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:41 
      AM
To: 
      
Cc: 'Barbara Erbes'; 
      ; Scott McGrath
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC 
      Teleconference Services 
      questionnaire

      

      
Just a quick supplemental thought - 
      internet technology could be changing this landscape 
      (again).

      

      
I 
      just purchased a standalone Skype phone by Linksys / Cisco (not 
      Skype thru the PC speakers et al).  The quality is dramatically 
      better with Skype V2 than it was last year on Skype 
      V1.

      

      
OASIS could consider setting up local 
      Skype dial-in numbers in each member country?  
      

      

      
The 
      cost for each is modest. Maybe Cisco / Skype could sponsor that for 
      us?

      

      
DW

      

      
        
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Subject: Re: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services 
        questionnaire
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Date: Mon, May 22, 
        2006 3:18 pm
To: "Scott McGrath" 
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Cc: "'Barbara Erbes'" 
        <>,


Scott, 
        

Michael Winters, our IBM 
        OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as 
        well. If OASIS is striving to internationalize its membership more 
        assertively, there should not be a penalty for calling in from countries 
        that today have the fewest participation. 

Don 
        Harbison
Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Business & 
        Technical Strategy
IBM Software 
        Group
tel:1-978-399-7018
Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
email: 
        

        
          
          

            
              
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Reminder of the Teleconference 
        questionnaire.  If you have replied – thanks.  If not, here is 
        your chance. 
  
Scott… 
  
Chairs, 
  
        
We’ve heard the dialogue on the Chairs list about the problems 
        Committee teleconference costs pose for members – both for international 
        participants who dial in and for member organizations who volunteer to 
        host calls. 
  
OASIS is investigating options for funding 
        Committee conference calls out of member dues. We have conducted a 
        preliminary analysis based on postings to our central events calendar, 
        information from our member databases, and the service quotes of several 
        service providers. This research indicates that the annual cost of 
        providing fully internationalized services for every call of every 
        Committee, could exceed 10% of our total operating budget (over 250,000 
        USD annually). 
  
In 
        light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is vital that we take the 
        time to fully understand the expectations and circumstances of all our 
        Committees, so that we might identify alternatives to manage costs while 
        still addressing the majority of your needs. 
  
        
To that end, we’re asking a representative of each OASIS Committee 
        to spend five minutes answering the following 16 questions on 
        teleconference usage. We appreciate that in many cases, the best you can 
        offer is an educated guess. That’s fine. Any information you 
        provide—even if it can’t be verified by detailed tracking or 
        reports—will be helpful to us. 
  
Only one reply per TC or 
        Sub-Committee is needed, so please coordinate your responses with 
        co-chairs and secretaries.   
  
Thank you in advance 
        for your time, 
  
Scott McGrath 
Director Member Services 
        
  
  
        
OASIS 
        Committee Teleconference Requirements Questionnaire 
          
Committee Name: ODF Adoption TC 
(If 
        you chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee,  please fill 
        out this questionnaire separately for each.) 
About 
        your teleconference use: 
On average, how many 
        teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4) 
  
        
How many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60 minutes) 
        
  
Approximately how many minutes was the longest call your 
        Committee held in the past year? N/A 
  
About 
        your teleconference callers: 
  
How 
        many callers typically participate in your teleconferences from: 
        
__5__ North America 
__3___ Europe 
__1___Asia 
__0___Australia 
        
_____Other 
Do you believe the expense of 
        international (country-to-country) calling is a limiting factor for 
        OASIS Members to participate in the Committee you chair? 
        
As a new TC, we do not have 
        sufficient experience to respond. 

If so, can you 
        cite specific examples? 
  
  
About 
        your existing teleconference support 
  
        

Does a member of your Committee provide teleconference hosting? 
        Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM. 
  
If you are generally 
        pleased with the service your Committee uses most frequently, can you 
        tell us the name of the provider (and why you like them)? 
  
        
If you are not pleased with the service your Committee uses, can you 
        tell us the name of the provider (and why you are dissatisfied)? 
        
  
Does the teleconference service 
        provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some 
        areas? 
Does your teleconference service provide local 
        numbers in more than one country? 
  
Can 
        you offer any advice about other services you tried and 
        discontinued? 
Premiere previously provided 
        conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology and has 
        migrated to it. 
About 
        future teleconference use and support 
  
        
Given your current situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so, 
         do you think OASIS should provide teleconference services, funded 
        by member dues?  Yes. 
  
If OASIS could provide only 
        limited resources to solve the largest problems inhibiting member 
        participation, what do you think reasonable bounds would be? 
  
        
Indicate your acceptance of the following suggestions, on a scale of 
        1 to 5 
(5 Meaning you would accept the 
        idea, 1 being you would not accept the idea) 
  
        
_5__OASIS would provide international service with in-country 
         dial-in for all Committees, all calls. 
_2_OASIS would provide 
        a local dial-in line for the country in which the majority of Committee 
        members reside, others members pay their  international rates to 
        dial-in. 
_4_OASIS would continue to encourage member organizations 
        to host Committee calls and covers the costs only when a Committee is 
        unable to identify a host. 
_1_OASIS would encourage Committees to 
        use free conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com) 
        
_1_OASIS would not provide any teleconference service that will have 
        a budget impact 
  
  
Any other comments or 
        suggestions: