Not
for the numbers that are on our calls. A skype conference is limited to
about 5 and there is no call in.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull
[mailto:]
Sent: 24 May 2006 16:02
To:
Nick Pope; David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: Barbara Erbes;
; Scott McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire
And you
can do this today. You don’t need OASIS to get involved to set it
up.
D
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OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
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From: Nick
Pope [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:45
AM
To: David RR Webber (XML);
Duane Nickull
Cc: Barbara
Erbes; ; Scott McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire
I agree a Skype POP
would be great!
Nick
-----Original
Message-----
From: David RR
Webber (XML) [mailto:]
Sent: 23 May 2006 17:24
To: Duane Nickull
Cc: Barbara Erbes;
; Scott McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference
Services questionnaire
Duane,
We talking at cross purposes here I believe - the
discussion was "if we did something -what might it be?" - information
gathering. Not decision process - Yes / No - to actually do
it.
The beauty of Skype POP is zero cost for actual
calls placed. For those of us spending $100's monthly on international
calls - this is a critical factor.
If OASIS has a Skype # in country - its a free call
via Skype, or just a local call rate from a landline
phone.
Clearly this is a big deal in encouraging overseas
participation in TC work.
DW
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From: "Duane Nickull"
<>
Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06 pm
To:
"David RR Webber (XML)"
<>,
<>
Cc:
"Barbara Erbes"
<>,
<>,
"Scott
McGrath"
<>
Sorry – but I
have to disagree with this in principle. Yes – Skype is good and the
cost is very low but I do not think that OASIS should bother with the
overhead of being a conference call sponsor. Simply put, the costs
will be greater than if we continue organizing it ourselves and that cost
has no other place to be passed on than to us, the members.
IMO –
it is much more efficient for each TC to arrange their own resources for
meetings. Let OASIS keep focused on major issues like IPR, working
with other SDO’s, providing the web infrastructure (WIKI’s
etc).
My
$0.02 CAD worth.
Duane
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Adobe
Developer Program - http://developer.adobe.com/
Chair
- OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
Personal Blog - http://technoracle.blogspot.com/
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From:
David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:41
AM
To:
Cc: 'Barbara Erbes';
; Scott McGrath
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Just a quick supplemental thought -
internet technology could be changing this landscape
(again).
I
just purchased a standalone Skype phone by Linksys / Cisco (not
Skype thru the PC speakers et al). The quality is dramatically
better with Skype V2 than it was last year on Skype
V1.
OASIS could consider setting up local
Skype dial-in numbers in each member country?
The
cost for each is modest. Maybe Cisco / Skype could sponsor that for
us?
DW
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Message --------
Subject: Re: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
From:
Date: Mon, May 22,
2006 3:18 pm
To: "Scott McGrath"
<>
Cc: "'Barbara Erbes'"
<>,
Scott,
Michael Winters, our IBM
OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as
well. If OASIS is striving to internationalize its membership more
assertively, there should not be a penalty for calling in from countries
that today have the fewest participation.
Don
Harbison
Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Business &
Technical Strategy
IBM Software
Group
tel:1-978-399-7018
Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
email:
"Scott
McGrath"
<>
05/22/2006 02:22
PM
To
<>
cc
"'Barbara
Erbes'" <>
Subject
[chairs] TC
Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire. If you have replied – thanks. If not, here is
your chance.
Scott…
Chairs,
We’ve heard the dialogue on the Chairs list about the problems
Committee teleconference costs pose for members – both for international
participants who dial in and for member organizations who volunteer to
host calls.
OASIS is investigating options for funding
Committee conference calls out of member dues. We have conducted a
preliminary analysis based on postings to our central events calendar,
information from our member databases, and the service quotes of several
service providers. This research indicates that the annual cost of
providing fully internationalized services for every call of every
Committee, could exceed 10% of our total operating budget (over 250,000
USD annually).
In
light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is vital that we take the
time to fully understand the expectations and circumstances of all our
Committees, so that we might identify alternatives to manage costs while
still addressing the majority of your needs.
To that end, we’re asking a representative of each OASIS Committee
to spend five minutes answering the following 16 questions on
teleconference usage. We appreciate that in many cases, the best you can
offer is an educated guess. That’s fine. Any information you
provide—even if it can’t be verified by detailed tracking or
reports—will be helpful to us.
Only one reply per TC or
Sub-Committee is needed, so please coordinate your responses with
co-chairs and secretaries.
Thank you in advance
for your time,
Scott McGrath
Director Member Services
OASIS
Committee Teleconference Requirements Questionnaire
Committee Name: ODF Adoption TC
(If
you chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee, please fill
out this questionnaire separately for each.)
About
your teleconference use:
On average, how many
teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4)
How many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60 minutes)
Approximately how many minutes was the longest call your
Committee held in the past year? N/A
About
your teleconference callers:
How
many callers typically participate in your teleconferences from:
__5__ North America
__3___ Europe
__1___Asia
__0___Australia
_____Other
Do you believe the expense of
international (country-to-country) calling is a limiting factor for
OASIS Members to participate in the Committee you chair?
As a new TC, we do not have
sufficient experience to respond.
If so, can you
cite specific examples?
About
your existing teleconference support
Does a member of your Committee provide teleconference hosting?
Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM.
If you are generally
pleased with the service your Committee uses most frequently, can you
tell us the name of the provider (and why you like them)?
If you are not pleased with the service your Committee uses, can you
tell us the name of the provider (and why you are dissatisfied)?
Does the teleconference service
provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some
areas?
Does your teleconference service provide local
numbers in more than one country?
Can
you offer any advice about other services you tried and
discontinued?
Premiere previously provided
conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology and has
migrated to it.
About
future teleconference use and support
Given your current situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so,
do you think OASIS should provide teleconference services, funded
by member dues? Yes.
If OASIS could provide only
limited resources to solve the largest problems inhibiting member
participation, what do you think reasonable bounds would be?
Indicate your acceptance of the following suggestions, on a scale of
1 to 5
(5 Meaning you would accept the
idea, 1 being you would not accept the idea)
_5__OASIS would provide international service with in-country
dial-in for all Committees, all calls.
_2_OASIS would provide
a local dial-in line for the country in which the majority of Committee
members reside, others members pay their international rates to
dial-in.
_4_OASIS would continue to encourage member organizations
to host Committee calls and covers the costs only when a Committee is
unable to identify a host.
_1_OASIS would encourage Committees to
use free conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com)
_1_OASIS would not provide any teleconference service that will have
a budget impact
Any other comments or
suggestions: