Duane,
Well yeah - if you want to pop for the annual $'s yourself for the
in-country # - and then don't mind making your in-country # public -
and then conferencing that into the OASIS TC call dial-in #....
Seems like a lot of if's ; -)
DW
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Subject: RE:
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From: "Duane
Nickull" <>
Date: Wed, May 24, 2006 11:02
am
To: "Nick Pope" <>, "David RR Webber
(XML)"
<>
Cc: "Barbara Erbes"
<>,
<>,
"Scott McGrath"
<>,
<>
And you can do this today. You don’t need OASIS to
get involved to set it up.
D
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From:
Nick Pope [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:45
AM
To: David RR Webber
(XML); Duane Nickull
Cc: Barbara Erbes; ; Scott
McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
I agree a
Skype POP would be great!
Nick
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Message-----
From:
David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:]
Sent: 23 May 2006
17:24
To: Duane
Nickull
Cc: Barbara
Erbes; ; Scott McGrath;
Subject: RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Duane,
We talking at cross purposes here I believe -
the discussion was "if we did something -what might it be?" -
information gathering. Not decision process - Yes / No - to
actually do it.
The beauty of Skype POP is zero cost for actual
calls placed. For those of us spending $100's monthly on
international calls - this is a critical
factor.
If OASIS has a Skype # in country - its a free
call via Skype, or just a local call rate from a landline
phone.
Clearly this is a big deal in encouraging
overseas participation in TC work.
DW
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From: "Duane
Nickull" <>
Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06
pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)"
<>,
<>
Cc:
"Barbara Erbes"
<>,
<>,
"Scott
McGrath"
<>
Sorry –
but I have to disagree with this in principle. Yes – Skype
is good and the cost is very low but I do not think that OASIS should
bother with the overhead of being a conference call sponsor.
Simply put, the costs will be greater than if we continue organizing it
ourselves and that cost has no other place to be passed on than to us,
the members.
IMO
– it is much more efficient for each TC to arrange their own
resources for meetings. Let OASIS keep focused on major issues
like IPR, working with other SDO’s, providing the web
infrastructure (WIKI’s
etc).
My
$0.02 CAD worth.
Duane
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OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee
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From: David RR Webber (XML)
[mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:41 AM
To:
Cc: 'Barbara Erbes'; ;
Scott McGrath
Subject:
RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Just a quick supplemental thought -
internet technology could be changing this landscape
(again).
I just purchased a standalone
Skype phone by Linksys / Cisco (not Skype thru the PC speakers et
al). The quality is dramatically better with Skype V2 than it was
last year on Skype V1.
OASIS could consider setting up
local Skype dial-in numbers in each member country?
The cost for each is modest. Maybe
Cisco / Skype could sponsor that for
us?
DW
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Subject: Re: [chairs] TC
Teleconference Services questionnaire
From:
Date: Mon, May 22, 2006 3:18 pm
To:
"Scott McGrath" <>
Cc: "'Barbara
Erbes'"
<>,
Scott,
Michael Winters, our IBM
OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing telecomm services, as
well. If OASIS is striving to internationalize its membership more
assertively, there should not be a penalty for calling in from
countries that today have the fewest participation.
Don Harbison
Program Director, IBM ODF
Initiative
Business & Technical Strategy
IBM Software
Group
tel:1-978-399-7018
Mobile:
+1-978-761-0116
email:
"Scott McGrath"
<>
05/22/2006 02:22 PM
To
<>
cc
"'Barbara Erbes'"
<>
Subject
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire. If you have replied – thanks. If not,
here is your chance.
Scott…
Chairs,
We’ve heard the dialogue on the Chairs
list about the problems Committee teleconference costs pose for members
– both for international participants who dial in and for member
organizations who volunteer to host calls.
OASIS is
investigating options for funding Committee conference calls out of
member dues. We have conducted a preliminary analysis based on postings
to our central events calendar, information from our member databases,
and the service quotes of several service providers. This research
indicates that the annual cost of providing fully internationalized
services for every call of every Committee, could exceed 10% of our
total operating budget (over 250,000 USD annually).
In light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is
vital that we take the time to fully understand the expectations and
circumstances of all our Committees, so that we might identify
alternatives to manage costs while still addressing the majority of
your needs.
To that end, we’re
asking a representative of each OASIS Committee to spend five minutes
answering the following 16 questions on teleconference usage. We
appreciate that in many cases, the best you can offer is an educated
guess. That’s fine. Any information you provide—even if it
can’t be verified by detailed tracking or reports—will be
helpful to us.
Only one reply per TC or Sub-Committee is
needed, so please coordinate your responses with co-chairs and
secretaries.
Thank you in advance for your time,
Scott McGrath
Director Member Services
OASIS Committee Teleconference Requirements
Questionnaire
Committee Name: ODF
Adoption TC
(If you chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee,
please fill out this questionnaire separately for each.)
About your
teleconference use:
On average, how many
teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4)
How many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60
minutes)
Approximately how many minutes was the longest
call your Committee held in the past year? N/A
About your
teleconference callers:
How many
callers typically participate in your teleconferences from:
__5__
North America
__3___ Europe
__1___Asia
__0___Australia
_____Other
Do
you believe the expense of international (country-to-country) calling
is a limiting factor for OASIS Members to participate in the Committee
you chair?
As a new TC, we do not have
sufficient experience to respond.
If so, can you
cite specific examples?
About your existing
teleconference support
Does a
member of your Committee provide teleconference hosting? Yes. If so,
which member(s)? IBM.
If you are generally pleased with
the service your Committee uses most frequently, can you tell us the
name of the provider (and why you like them)?
If you are
not pleased with the service your Committee uses, can you tell us the
name of the provider (and why you are dissatisfied)?
Does the teleconference service provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY
OR INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some areas?
Does
your teleconference service provide local numbers in more than one
country?
Can you offer any advice about
other services you tried and discontinued?
Premiere
previously provided conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own
VOIP technology and has migrated to it.
About future teleconference use and
support
Given your current
situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so, do you think OASIS
should provide teleconference services, funded by member dues?
Yes.
If OASIS could provide only limited resources
to solve the largest problems inhibiting member participation, what do
you think reasonable bounds would be?
Indicate your
acceptance of the following suggestions, on a scale of 1 to 5
(5
Meaning you would accept the idea, 1 being you would not accept the
idea)
_5__OASIS would provide
international service with in-country dial-in for all Committees,
all calls.
_2_OASIS would provide a local dial-in line for the
country in which the majority of Committee members reside, others
members pay their international rates to dial-in.
_4_OASIS
would continue to encourage member organizations to host Committee
calls and covers the costs only when a Committee is unable to identify
a host.
_1_OASIS would encourage Committees to use free
conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com)
_1_OASIS
would not provide any teleconference service that will have a budget
impact
Any other comments or suggestions:
