Agenda for Code List Representation TC call 30 July 2021 14:00 UTC

Agenda
        for Code List Representation TC call

    30 July 2021 - 9:00 MSP/10:00
        Ottawa/14:00 UTC/16:00 Central Europe

      http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2021-07-16T14:00:00

    

    

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      TC Members
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          Pres.
          Name
          Organization
          Status
        

        

          (X)
          Kenneth
            Bengtsson
          Individual
          Member
        

        

          (X)
          Erlend
            Klakegg Bergheim
          The Norwegian
            Agency for Public and Financial Management (DFO)
          Voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          James Cabral
          Individual
          Leave of
            absence
        

        

          (X)
          Andrea Caccia
            (chair)
          Individual
          Voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          Ger Clancy
          IBM
          Persistent
            non-voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          Jim Harris
          National
            Center for State Courts
          Voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          Ken Holman
          Crane
            Softwrights Ltd.
          Voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          Natalie Muric
          Publications
            Office of the European Union
          Voting Member
        

        

          (X)
          Levine Naidoo
          IBM
          Persistent
            non-voting Member
        

      
    
    

            

    Presence
                      legend (X):

                      (P)=Present

                      (A)=Absent

                      (R)=Regrets

                      (L)=Leave of absence

                    

              TC Members possibly gaining
                              voting rights after this meeting

                        None

                                        
                          

                          TC Members possibly loosing
                              voting rights after this meeting

                      Jim, Natalie

                             

                          Review of last call minutes

              https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00007.html

              In
                            case the minutes cannot be approved during
                            the meeting due to lack of quorum, they will
                            be considered approved if no objection is
                            raised during the meeting or received within
                            7 days from now.

                            

                          Confirmation
                      of Meeting Schedule

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summer break during all August

      

      
2021-09-10:
        09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

      
2021-09-24:
        09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

    
      TC Deliverables
        planning

    ---------------------------------

    Agreed that we
      first should focus on the first two deliverables:

     - a semantic
      model / meta-model of genericode

     - an XML
      serialization of the genericode semantic model, with the intent of
      backward compatibility (or even no changes) to the existing
      genericode

     We need to look
      into how to express the semantic model of the existing markup
      vocabulary. What technologies should we look at and use?

      Further discussion is needed. 

    

    Semantic model
        / meta-model

    -----------------------------------------

    James
      volunteered for start looking into the  "semantic
        model / meta-model of genericode" topic and assessing if the fit
        of the metamodel to current Genericode specification.

      The NIEM metamodel should be analysed, Git repository: 

      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00004.html

    Proposed
    extensions to the NIEM metamodel to support genericode features such
    as multiple columns and keys with mocked up example based on
    nc:LanguageCode that introduces 3 new elements to the NIEM
    metamodel, for discussion: 

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00005.html

    

    Ken observed the following about the metamodel in light of the work
    being done in JSON:

    - it may be premature to continue work on the metamodel until we
    determine its utility in light of our earlier decision on JSON

    - earlier it was decided that the JSON syntax is only a
    demonstration subset of genericode so that users can tailor the JSON
    to their own needs

    - if we aren't going to create the entire genericode in JSON, what
    is the use of a metamodel?

    - already proposals are made to have different names in the JSON
    than in the XSD, so what would we have to do in the metamodel to
    identify semantics that are labeled differently in the two syntaxes

    - Ken proposed we consider suspending the metamodel and put our
    efforts into a parallel subset JSON and other responsibilities on
    the project

    

    Further observetions in the mailing list:

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00008.html

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00009.html

    

    Genericode
        document editing

    ----------------------------------------

    Ken volonteered to
        continue dealing with Genericode document editing.

        Ken posted genericode-v1.0-csd04wd03 for review:

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00004.html

        

        =====

        

      We need to look into aligning the prose to ISO/IEC 15944-10
      IT-enabled coded domains as semantic components in business
      transactions.

      Andrea and Ken volunteered for start taking care of this and make
      proposals to the group.

      Further discussion
      on first attempt to put Genericode in scope of ISO/IEC 15944 and
      Open-edi standards:

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202104/msg00001.html

      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00003.html

      

      Ken is working on alignment and posted for review CSD04WD02
      working draft:

      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00013.html

      

      See also for further information: 

      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00011.html

    

    JSON scheme

      ------------------

        Preliminary schema from Erlend:

        https://github.com/klakegg/genericode-schema

        

        Further considerations from Ken for discussion:

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00002.html

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202107/msg00004.html

      

    The group
            discussed the schema and examples in github and recognized
            that as a good basis to proceed.

            In the next weeks Ken and Erlend will further progress the
            work.

            

           Use or
            potential use of Genericode

        ----------------------------------------------
      

      A question was raised to check about interest on having JSON
      serialization of genericode.

      Possible users to reach:

      - ISO RAs

      - source authorities listed in the ICD list based on ISO/IEC 6523

      - EU CEF

    

    Use of Code lists by OpenPEPPOL was spotted by Ken:

    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00006.html

    They publish code lists both in XML and JSON and also using
    genericode.

    

    Use of genericode by the European Commission was identified with
    electronic invoicing:

    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00007.html

    

    The EU Publication Office is using genericode:

    https://op.europa.eu/en/web/eu-vocabularies/e-procurement/tables

    

    The OASIS LegalXML Electronic Court Filing specifications v4 and v5
    use genericode. 

    ECF v4 is widely adopted among US state courts.

    http://docs.oasis-open.org/legalxml-courtfiling/ecf/v5.0/cs01/schema/

    

    Ken started a
      poll to gather input from potential stakeholders to investigate on
      use of JSON with Genericode:

     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00012.html

    

    According to the results reported until June 14th meeting minutes,
    JSON is used for internal use and not for publication.

    It was also observed that any JSON serialization would not be able
    to address XML features such as annotations and custom complex
    values in columns.

    

    Natalie contacted directly potential stakeholders.

    

    The revision activities for ISO/IEC 6523 also started (ISO/IEC AWI
    6523-1 and ISO/IEC AWI 6523-2) with potential use of genericode can
    be foreseen for the publication of the ICD list by the ISO/IEC 6523
    RA.

    

    Other Business

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    As come forward.

            
  

 
	

      
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