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Re: [dita] The whatever-we-call-it factor
Associating "networking" with the collection helps in explaining
Eliot's sense of the linking/addressing discussion. However, a DITA
topic may also be used individually or in a collection that that
has no processing requirement for networking (a zip manifest for
example). My concern is that any core redefinition in that sense
tends to constrain rather than maintain the options we have already
in the spec's language. DITA is not only about defining structured
information networks, which is why I want to keep doors open for
adoption.
I have a separate concern about the thin line between the conceptual
or marketing nature of explanations that we are considering. There
are definitely separate venues for any marketing or educational
story that merits more space than we should give in the spec beyond
setting the concepts (the issue we've been cleaning up ever since
DITA 1.0 went out as a "user guide" in effect!).
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Don
On 3/12/2015 9:34 AM, Bob Thomas wrote:
Hi Don. I think that I understand your concerns. I
agree that we ought not to preclude interesting use-cases by
using exclusive language. But, I take issue with your specific
objections.
In the physical world, a structure can be anything from a
garden shed to a cathedral. Similarly, the terms
"structure," "hierarchy," and "aggregation" include the
trivial case where the size of a collection is one. Because
of this, I don't think that we are excluding interesting use
cases.
Bob
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Don R.
Day <>
wrote:
On
3/11/2015 4:31 PM, Bob Thomas wrote:
DITA is an XML vocabulary for
creating content and then aggregating it and other
resources into a structured information network.
Hey, Bob, I appreciate your attempt to try to
synthesize some of the new language that Eliot has
introduced. Regarding your starting definition above, we
have already defined DITA in this way:
"The Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) is an
XML-based architecture for authoring, producing, and
delivering topic-oriented, information-typed content that
can be reused and single-sourced in a variety of ways."
We should not introduce any new appearance of defining
DITA as a particular kind of usage given that we already
have a sufficiently broad definition that encourages new
ways of looking at DITA usage. The redefinition
specifically inhibits any thought about accessing DITA
resources as independent Web resources apart from the
context of a map (by the very usage of "aggregation" and
"structured information network"). In the work of the
Lightweight DITA SC, we (I, for one) are keenly focused on
DITA for the long tail of uptake that is completely
orthogonal to the business concerns of traditional
publishing, which "aggregation and structured networks"
enshrines.
So we need to be cautious about using this new language in
any way that draws DITA into a role of usage that will
limit the freedom of innovative use going forward. I'm
seeing this so clearly now that I want to ask the TC to
consider how the terminology impacts the vision of
adoption that DITA ought to be free to grow into. We may
well want to better define the publishing role using some
of the new concepts, but we've got to keep the door open
for innovation beyond that already well-understood
community. This is about DITA for the rest of us.
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Don
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