DITA TC meeting minutes: 26 May 2020

26 May 2020 meeting minutes

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11 AM ET open

Roll call

Kris Eberlein, Chris Nitchie, Dawn Stevens, Zoe Lawson, Frank Wegmann, Gershon Joseph, Jim Tivy, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Robert Anderson, Stan Doherty, Scott Hudson, Carlos Evia
Regrets: Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Eliot Kimber

Approve minutes from previous business meeting:

14 April 2020

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00027.html (Lawson
+ Eberlein, 26 May 2020)
second by Frank Wegmann; approved.
21 April 2020

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202004/msg00017.html (Harrison,
21 April 2020)
second by Dawn Stevens; approved.
12 May 2020: No minutes, check-in on how everyone is faring during the pandemic 19 May 2020

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00024.html (Wegmann,
26 May 2020)
second by Gershon Joseph; approved.

Announcements

OASIS general meeting tomorrow: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00020.html

Action items

28 May 2019: Eberlein sent "nag e-mail" on 14 October 2019 about these three action items

Kris and Robert: Revise content and run it by Eliot (Draft-comment in spec WD03, section 3.3.3, page 37) Robert: Take an initial look at fixing this (Draft-comment in spec WD03, section 3.4.4, page 52)
Chris Kris: Look at draft-comment in spec WD03, section 8.2.2.19, page 210 IN
PROGRESS
18 June 2019

Robert/Kris/Bill: Work on remaining stylesheet issues; see https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/stylesheetBacklog .
Stylesheet walkthrough held on Friday, 31 January 2020 at 1 PM ET. IN PROGRESS
07 January 2020

Kris: Develop strawman schedule for DITA 2.0 work in 2020 In PROGRESS See agenda item #7
04 February 2020

Kris: Determine where we track work for making draft-comment available in more places
17 February 2020

Kris: Correct the example topic for "Key definition with key reference" Kris: Set up call with Alan Houser, Frank Wegmann, and Nancy Harrison to go over DITAweb admin
19 May 2020:

Kris: Send nag e-mail to Eliot about copy-to proposal COMPLETED
Kris: Catch up on minutes COMPLETED
Kris: Check on status of Keith's strong and em proposal COMPLETED

Check-in: How are people doing in this difficult time?

Scott Hudson - last meeting as Boeing employee; will start up as a ServiceNow representative in a few weeks.
Dawn Stevens - DITA North America will be completely virtual in September.

Update from subcommittee and other TCs

Lightweight DITA subcommittee (Evia)

Trying to align the working draft of the Committee Note with other implementations out there, esp w/MDITA.
IBM developed
their own version of lw-markdown, as did Jarno.
Don't want to break existing implementations, so want to see what can be brought in.
<example> is now an element in xdita and hdita.
Avoid adding new features at this time.
Carlos has created a second working
draft; SC has homework to review.
Adoption TC (Doherty, Schengili-Roberts)

New github repositories for circulating drafts of materials (OASIS members), and samples (public).
Stan and Scott are
co-maintainers.
Gershon is working on a whitepaper about financial.
Updating conference page on the wiki.
Info coming out of DITA users groups - what is missing?
Lots of DITA 101, but not much for best practices after implementation.

Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0

Hardware control domain - Zoe - TBD
Troubleshooting diagnostic - Kris added as reviewer
Copy-to proposal - should finish soon (Eliot)

Strong and em (stage 3) - Keith sent to list for review on 4/27.
Keith to resend.
TC to vote on next week.
Loosen specialization rules - TBD. Early feedback today.

DITA 2.0 stage two proposals

Vote

Remove machinery task

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00012.html (Lawson,
19 May 2020)
Roll call:

Kris Eberlein - seconded. Y
Chris Nitchie - Y
Dawn Stevens - Y
Zoe Lawson - Y
Frank Wegmann - Y
Gershon Joseph - Y
Keith Schengili-Roberts - Y
Robert Anderson - Y
Stan Doherty - Y
Scott Hudson - Y
Carlos Evia - Y

Approved unanimously.

Initial discussion

None
Early feedback

None

DITA 2.0 stage three proposals

Vote

None
Initial discussion

None
Early feedback

Loosening specialization rules

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00028.html (Nitchie,
26 May 2020)
Allow an attribute domain to add @base specializations to specific elements instead of globally.

Robert - seems to over complicate things by adding the @base.
You can just declare the attribute without adding the base complexity.
Chris - forgot that attlists are merged.
Just need the attlist and the domain tokens.
Robert - we shouldn't limit to @base, but also enable for @props.
People want easier ways to enable this specialization declarations for props, too.
Chris - some processors automatically cascade @props, so worry about validation processing.

Robert - the spec shouldn't have to worry about that.
That is a processor-specific issue.

Kris - Remembering proposal to be more about attributes, not elements.

Chris - Stage 2 added the element considerations.
DTDs will need new base attribute entities to help enable.

Gershon - Do we have enough clarity on what the RelaxNG looks like?
Should be our canonical format, not DTDs.
We need to make sure it works in RelaxNG (model and test it).

Robert - it gets easier when you don't have to worry about the DTD entities.

Allow "domain-local" element declarations (might be allowed in 1.3, but this proposal explicitly allows it).

Robert - imagemaps already do this.

Allow domain elements to be inserted into specific content models instead of globally.
Easier to declare specializations, rather than having to do a ton of constraints to the existing global method.

Robert - Not certain that this is hard.
So far looks better than some of our original designs (Constraint in reverse? Unconstraint?).
It gets difficult in that it would only work for elements that
you explicitly add it to.
If you applied to ph, it wouldn't apply to specializations of ph. There is precedence with constraints.
It follows other rules of specialization, but applies to smaller areas, so that is nice.
Kris - Agree, this will be much easier to simplify grammar files. Scott agrees.

Chris to add revisions for a new draft.

Spec work completed

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/editorialWorkCompleted

Approved DITA 2.0 proposals

Working draft #08

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202005/msg00003.html (Eberlein,
11 April 2019)
Tally of approved proposals now included in first topic of PDF

Continuing item: Prep work for developing a strawman schedule for DITA 2.0

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202002/msg00006.html (Eberlein,
04 February 2020 Summary of DITA 2.0 triage

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202003/msg00018.html (Eberlein,
10 March 2020)
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202003/msg00032.html (Eberlein,
17 March 2020)
OASIS process for spec approval

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202003/msg00033.html (Eberlein,
17 March 2020)
On hold until Kris has drafted expanded schedule

12 noon ET close

Thanks and best regards,

--Scott

Scott Hudson
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