RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

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David Fischer <>
Date
2002-03-01T20:07:53+00:00
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RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?
Title: RE: [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

DGI has donated thousands of hours to ebXML over the last two 
years.  We are represented on five committees (two as editors and one as 
v1.0 Chair) all non-reimbursed.  The interoperability test ran 
about four months with daily conference calls and constant work on our 
part.  We are providing this service for very little more than cost 
recovery.

 

DGI is not taking advantage.  Why is this any different than 
someone implementing the spec and selling their product, thus taking advantage 
of hundreds of hours of volunteer work?  No one actually volunteers for 
ebXML.  Everyone has a business reason to be here.

 

Regards,

 

David Fischer

Drummond Group.

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Seaburg, Lisa 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 
  1:04 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: 
  [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ?

  
Excuse me, but if this is true, the fee is $35,000!  Then 
  the Drummond group is blatantly taking advantage of the hundreds of volunteer 
  hours put in by all the people involved.  I would like to get on my 
  soapbox about this, but I won't today.  I will wait and see what other 
  comments come from this email thread.

  
Lisa 

  
-----Original Message----- 
From: Duane 
  Nickull [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:58 AM 
To: Patrick Yee 
Cc: Cliff Collins; 
   
Subject: Re: 
  [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ? 

  
The stated charge is a bit steep at $35,000 a pop. 

  
Duane 

  
Patrick Yee wrote: 
> 
  
> Excuse me, I want to ask a side track 
  question. 
> What is the charge to have the 
  messaging implementation to be tested by the 
> 
  Drummond Group? Thanks. 
> 
> Regards, 
> -Patrick 
> -- 
> Patrick Yee 
> System Architect 
> Center for 
  E-Commerce Infrastructure Development (CECID) 
> 
  Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems 
> 
  The University of Hong Kong 
> Tel: (852) 
  22415674 
> Fax: (852) 25474611 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
  
> From: "Cliff Collins" <> 
  
> To: <>; 
  <> 
> Sent: 
  Friday, March 01, 2002 2:06 AM 
> Subject: RE: 
  [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ? 
> 
  
> > Sybase has implemented Version 2.0 of the 
  specification.  Our 
> > product is also 
  part of the interoperability test that 
> > is 
  being run by the Drummond Group. 
> > 
  
> > Cliff 
> > 
  
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From:  [mailto:] 
  
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 9:47 
  AM 
> > > To: 
   
> > > Subject: 
  [ebxml-msg] Have you implemented Version 2.0 ? 
> 
  > > 
> > > 
> 
  > > Implementers 
> > > 
> > > As I only have a couple of outstanding non returned 
  ballots the 
> > > specification looks likely 
  to pass I need confirmation that the 
> > > 
  specification has been implemented and does work as we have specified 
  
> for 
> > > the 
  submission process.  I would like this to be open so please post 
  an 
> > > e-mail to the list confirming you 
  have successfully implemented 
> > > Version 
  2.0 
> > > of the message services.  This 
  is NOT a product announcement only that 
> 
  you 
> > > have implemented and tested it 
  internally.  If you do not want this 
> 
  public 
> > > please e-mail me direct and only 
  the number of implantation will be made 
> > > 
  public. 
> > > 
> 
  > > Ian Jones 
> > > Chair OASIS ebXML 
  Messaging Services TC 
> > > 
> > > Tel:  +44 (0)29 2072 4063 
> > > Fax: +44 (0)29 2072 4137 
> 
  > > Email:  
> > 
  > 
> > > 
> > 
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