Sorry Toby, I forgot to click
reply-all.
Robert Old
Siemens Industry, Inc.
Building Technologies
1000 Deerfield Pkwy.
Buffalo Grove, IL 60089-4513
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From: Old, Bob
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:13 AM
To: ''
Subject: RE: [emix] Not To Exceed
My expectation for verification
is that the utility meter information is required. I’ve also heard that
in a curtailment scenario, just promising to reduce load by a certain amount
around uncertain beginning and end points is a non-starter.
The programs I’ve heard of give
you a baseline for the next day, below which you have to reduce by some
program-determined amount and for which you get a program-determined level of
compensation. Sometimes the program specifies that the baseline will be
calculated on something like “the highest/lowest usage over 5 of the last 6 day
which don’t include weekends/holidays/days with an event called.” But
sometimes they just give you the number and you do your own modeling.
We’re talking money here.
It needs a revenue grade meter.
Best,
B.O. March 11, 2010
Robert Old
Siemens Industry, Inc.
Building Technologies
1000 Deerfield Pkwy.
Buffalo Grove, IL 60089-4513
Tel.: +1 (847) 941-5623
Skype: bobold2
www.siemens.com
From: Toby Considine [mailto:]
On Behalf Of Toby Considine
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:43 AM
To: ;
Subject: [emix] Not To Exceed
DR – and Verification, and
Verification is the conundrum. Verification is the problem because DR are is a
promise to reduce load by a certain amount from an uncertain beginning end
point to an unknown end point.
What about an agreement that “I
will use no more than xxx” as a DR offering. It becomes entirely results
oriented (good for a service). It would be more valuable if it warranted “no
spikes” rather than merely total use for a [15 minute] period. It certainly
would be callable.
Do we adopt this? If so, does
it look like
[emix – this is for max use]
Or does it look like
[Eitc: I will commit not to exceed
[emix]
]
In other words, is max an EITC or
EMIX thing…
tc
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Toby Considine
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