IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-03-13

Our next meeting will be in two weeks on the 27th of March - in two
weeks at the same time as today:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=3&day=27&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
Louis added a action table to our Wiki:  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Advanced%20Document%20Collaboration
Action item for all:  Review wiki pages
( insert / delete
paragraph). Easy enough to understand? Suggest common repeatable
structure!
What is missing,
e.g. what XML belongs to to the paragraph, i.e. only text:p with
attributes, we analyzed in todays call.
Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below:
[15:30]   Svante Schubert:  Hi everyone!
[15:32]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  searching for the numbers to dial in
[15:33]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  found
[15:33]   Svante Schubert:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=3&day=27&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
[15:35]   Svante Schubert:  In two weeks we still have European Winter time. To avoid any further confusion, lets stick to this schedule and use the above URL time.
[15:37]   lsoui:  daylight savings time sucks
[15:38]   Svante Schubert:  We are keeping the current time for our next call in two weeks, see URL above. If there are problems, just write to the list.
[15:38]   lsoui:  btw, latest OpenSuSE is out
[15:39]   Svante Schubert:
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Deletion%20of%20a%20paragraph
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Insertion%20of%20a%20paragraph
[15:39]   Svante Schubert:  Oliver: Status on Wiki page
[15:43]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  The last update on the Wiki page had been made in mid January to switch to the definitions to the definition of  operations . In the prose I mentioned which User Action could be changed-tracked by the  operation
[15:43]   Svante Schubert:  The idea is to use the Wiki page as the current working draft and paste it later into the ODF template of the specification
[15:44]   Svante Schubert:  Our final goal to reach our mayor milestone the delivery of a specification to our next ODF version.
[15:45]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  action item for Oliver: review wiki text on operations  insert paragraph  and  delete paragraph
[15:47]   Svante Schubert:  action item of Louis, to review to wiki to see if it is easy understandable
[15:48]   Svante Schubert:  I will take an action item to describe the common parts used for insert/delete paragraph, as the component counting/numbering.
[15:50]   Thorsten Behrens:  Hi there - terribly sorry -
[15:50]   lsoui:
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/odf-adoption/OdfAdoptionTcActionItems
[15:51]   Svante Schubert:  Louis: There was an action item table in the OASIS adoption TC, Louis is trying to copy/paste it into our wiki
[15:54]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  Do not hesitate to change the wiki text with the drafts for operation  insert paragraph  and  delete paragraph
[15:55]   Svante Schubert:  It would be easy/good if all component operations would have a common structure
[15:57]   Svante Schubert:  Is there any tool to grap information from Wiki pages to push it into an ODF file? Like an ODF specification?
[15:57]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  I am not sure, if wiki content is a contribution to OASIS regarding OASIS' IP rules.
[15:57]   Svante Schubert:  What's next? The most important part of a document is the text IMHO!
[15:58]   lsoui:  svante, I can't seem to create new pages in the wiki
[15:58]   Thorsten Behrens:  otherwise, wiki is fine for me
[15:58]   Svante Schubert:  @Louis: Still member?
[15:58]   Svante Schubert:  @Oliver: We should ask this in the TC, if the Wiki is sufficient for IP rules!
[15:59]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  yes, ask in the next TC call
[15:59]   Svante Schubert:  ^^the first who remembers to ask, shall do it!
[15:59]   Thorsten Behrens:  so, next up after paragraph - text and text styles.
[16:00]   Svante Schubert:  <text:line-break/>
[16:00]   Svante Schubert:  is a component, that is a child of a text container as the paragrah
[16:01]   Svante Schubert:  Another action item: is to list our todo list. The ECT feature set!
[16:02]   Svante Schubert:  What components and operations are necessary to cover the ECT feature set.
[16:02]   Svante Schubert:  think of components are just logical XML groups (or single XML elements), or just modular pieces of a the document
[16:04]   Svante Schubert:  Can we upload odf docs in the wiki?
[16:05]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  We can store documents in the OASIS document repo. and link to them from the wiki
[16:05]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  damn - why all text is coming twice
[16:05]   Svante Schubert:  Sounds good, Oliver!
[16:06]   lsoui:  added minimal table to the homepage of the group
[16:06]   Svante Schubert:  Got an URL, Louis?
[16:07]   lsoui:
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Advanced%20Document%20Collaboration#preview
[16:14]   Svante Schubert:  Discussing -  https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Insertion%20of%20a%20paragraph
[16:15]   Svante Schubert:  We need to define first, what is the XML set that is part of the component.
[16:15]   Svante Schubert:  Remember each character is an own component.
[16:16]   Svante Schubert:  One deletion of a paragraph will result into multiple insert operations to undo the change.
[16:29]   Svante Schubert:  Just looked into schema text  does not require any attributes nor XML elements.
[16:31]   Svante Schubert:  The first insert paragraph operation would be simply adding a text: p element
[16:31]   Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:  bye
[16:31]   Svante Schubert:  Of course later we will have additional attributes.
[16:31]   Svante Schubert:  byebye