RE: [saml-dev] Questions about dry run

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Philpott, Robert <>
Date
2002-05-03T12:35:49+00:00
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RE: [saml-dev] Questions about dry run
Hey guys - Here's a more
detailed proposal on the network configuration. 

 

First - re: network addresses.  I'm
assuming we will NOT be using DHCP.

 
It tends to play havoc with
     some server software/frameworks.

 
If we want multiple names for
     the same system, it doesn't work well. The reason this is important
     should be clear by the end of this message.

The down side is that everyone must
configure the network on their systems with fixed IP addresses.  I'm
going with the 192.168.x.y proposal from Don.

 

First, "x" depends on the
alphabetically sorted company name:

 

X - company name

1 - baltimore

2 - crosslogix

3 - entegrity

4 - netegrity

5 - novell

6 - oblix

7 - quadrasis

8 - rsa

9 - sigaba

10 - sun

11 - systinet

12 - Tivoli

13 - verisign

 

Using Prateek's suggested system
naming I now recommend setting "y" as follows:

 

Y - demo function

1 - portal

2 - application

3 - receiver

4 - responder

 

So, for example, the RSA portal system can
be found at IP address 192.168.8.1

 

At a minimum, each company will have 4
entries.  This assumes that the system names are actually set to "portal",
"application", etc.  If the systems where these demo functions
are hosted really have different system names than those used above, then we
just need to add additional entries for those addresses.  For example:

 

192.168.8.1       portal.rsa.com               #
RSA portal host

192.168.8.1       philpott-lap.rsa.com        #
actual system name where the portal runs

192.168.8.2       application.rsa.com        #
RSA content provider host

192.168.8.2       ct009.rsa.com               #
actual system name where the application resides

192.168.8.3       receiver.rsa.com            #
RSA artifact receiver host

192.168.8.3       ct009.rsa.com               #
the artifact receiver is also the content provider host

192.168.8.4       responder.rsa.com         #
RSA SAML SOAP binding responder host

192.168.8.4       philpott-lap.rsa.com        #
the SAML responder is also on the portal system

 

I will put together a complete etc/host
file using the default settings above.  If folks want additional entries
for the specific IP addresses, you'll need to send me the IP addresses and
machine names that you'll be using.  Please use the format:

192.168.x.y       machine.company.com  #
any comment you want

 

The next issue is whether to use a DNS
server or individual etc/host files.

 

There are pro's and con's to
using an etc/host file.  Pro's - easy to modify, no DNS system
to manage, individual systems don't have to have their network config
changed to account for the DNS server.  Con's - easy to get
out of synch, changing the file means updating it on all systems (and we'll
have a lot of systems).

 

My preference would be to use a DNS server.
 I've asked our comm/IT group to set one up for me on a laptop so it
will be easy to take out to the show in SF.  It looks promising, but if
they decide they can't do it for me, I'll either need another
company to step up to the plate and bring one properly configured, or we'll
have to go with etc/host files.  I'll let you know when I hear
definitively from them.  The advantage of the DNS server is that there's
just one place to update and all systems can take advantage of it.

 

Does all of this make sense to folks?

 

Rob
 Philpott

RSA Security Inc.

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-----Original Message-----

From: Don Bowen
[mailto:] 

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:05 PM

To: 

Subject: [saml-dev] Questions
about dry run

 

I have a few questions about the dry run, which I need to secure the
right facilities at Sun. My apologies that this has not 

been confirmed yet, but being out of the country and trying to coordinate it
make things difficult. 

Robert
Philpott has already asked several questions, but I still haven't seen any
replies. PLEASE review these 

questions, which I have inserted below in case you no longer have it: 

Hey folks - I'm lining up network access for the dry run.
I've asked them to allow http, ftp, email, and VPN 

protocols through the firewall. 
Anything else? 

Other network questions: 

   1.Do we want a DHCP server set up for the local
network? 

   2.What about a DNS
server?  I would think it would be easiest to just configure an etc/hosts
file that we all 

share, but I thought I'd ask.  I'm not
sure I'll have time to configure a system for this here, so I would probably
need 

someone else to step up to the plate.

   3.Regardless of whether we want
DHCP, I assume a bunch of the boxes will need static addresses.  We should

agree on ranges of address for each company
to use.  Someone want to propose something? 

I did
propose something for address ranges, but have seen no reply to that either.
Here is that proposal again for your 

comment: 

What about a netmask of 255.255.255.0 and 192.168.x.y where:

x would range from 1-N (N being number of
participants, assigned in alphabetical order) 

y would be 1-M (M being the number of
machines a participant needed) 

Additional
information that I need includes: 

- How
many people from each company are planning to attend? 

- How many machines will each of you bring with? 

- What would you expect to be provided? 

I'm not
trying to be pushy at all, but without input from all participants on these
questions and issues we can't make the 

necessary progress. If someone wanted to volunteer to create a network diagram
that shows all participants, their 

machines and any other equipment that would be great. 

I will be
putting together an agenda sometime today or over the weekend for the call this
next Tuesday. Feel free to 

send input. I'm leaving Munich for Paris at noon and just can't do it any
sooner. 

Don;