RE: [saml-dev] Questions about dry run

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Anne Thomas Manes <>
Date
2002-05-03T14:53:44+00:00
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RE: [saml-dev] Questions about dry run
Have 
we determined that we will in fact only use browser 
artifacts?

If so, 
I think we're really limiting the scope of the demo.

 

Anne

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Philpott, Robert 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:36 
  AM
To: 'Don Bowen'; 
Subject: 
  RE: [saml-dev] Questions about dry run

  

  
Hey guys - Here's a 
  more detailed proposal on the network configuration. 

  
 

  
First - re: network 
  addresses.  I'm assuming we will NOT be using DHCP.

  
    
It tends to play 
    havoc with some server software/frameworks. 
    
If we want multiple 
    names for the same system, it doesn't work well. The reason this is 
    important should be clear by the end of this message. 

  
The down side is that 
  everyone must configure the network on their systems with fixed IP 
  addresses.  I'm going with the 192.168.x.y proposal from 
  Don.

  
 

  
First, "x" depends on 
  the alphabetically sorted company name:

  
 

  
X - company 
  name

  
1 - 
  baltimore

  
2 - 
  crosslogix

  
3 - 
  entegrity

  
4 - 
  netegrity

  
5 - 
  novell

  
6 - 
  oblix

  
7 - 
  quadrasis

  
8 - 
  rsa

  
9 - 
  sigaba

  
10 - 
  sun

  
11 - 
  systinet

  
12 - 
  Tivoli

  
13 - 
  verisign

  
 

  
Using Prateek's 
  suggested system naming I now recommend setting "y" as 
  follows:

  
 

  
Y - demo 
  function

  
1 - 
  portal

  
2 - 
  application

  
3 - 
  receiver

  
4 - 
  responder

  
 

  
So, for example, the 
  RSA portal system can be found at IP address 192.168.8.1

  
 

  
At a minimum, each 
  company will have 4 entries.  This assumes that the system names are 
  actually set to "portal", "application", etc.  If the systems where these 
  demo functions are hosted really have different system names than those used 
  above, then we just need to add additional entries for those addresses.  
  For example:

  
 

  
192.168.8.1       
  portal.rsa.com   
              # RSA 
  portal host

  
192.168.8.1       
  philpott-lap.rsa.com        # actual system 
  name where the portal runs

  
192.168.8.2       
  application.rsa.com        # RSA content 
  provider host

  
192.168.8.2       
  ct009.rsa.com               
  # actual system name where the application resides

  
192.168.8.3       
  receiver.rsa.com            
  # RSA artifact receiver host

  
192.168.8.3       
  ct009.rsa.com               
  # the artifact receiver is also the content provider host

  
192.168.8.4       
  responder.rsa.com         # RSA SAML 
  SOAP binding responder host

  
192.168.8.4       
  philpott-lap.rsa.com        # the SAML 
  responder is also on the portal system

  
 

  
I will put together a 
  complete etc/host file using the default settings above.  If folks want 
  additional entries for the specific IP addresses, you'll need to send me the 
  IP addresses and machine names that you'll be using.  Please use the 
  format:

  
192.168.x.y       
  machine.company.com  # any comment you want

  
 

  
The next issue is 
  whether to use a DNS server or individual etc/host files.

  
 

  
There are pro's and 
  con's to using an etc/host file.  Pro's - easy to modify, no DNS system 
  to manage, individual systems don't have to have their network config changed 
  to account for the DNS server.  Con's - easy to get out of synch, 
  changing the file means updating it on all systems (and we'll have a lot of 
  systems).

  
 

  
My preference would 
  be to use a DNS server.  I've asked our comm/IT group to set one up for 
  me on a laptop so it will be easy to take out to the show in SF.  It 
  looks promising, but if they decide they can't do it for me, I'll either need 
  another company to step up to the plate and bring one properly configured, or 
  we'll have to go with etc/host files.  I'll let you know when I hear 
  definitively from them.  The advantage of the DNS server is that there's 
  just one place to update and all systems can take advantage of 
  it.

  
 

  
Does all of this make 
  sense to folks?

  
 

  

  
Rob 
  Philpott

  
RSA 
  Security Inc.

  
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-----Original 
  Message-----
From: Don Bowen 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:05 
  PM
To: 
  
Subject: [saml-dev] Questions about dry 
  run

  
 

  
I have a few questions about the dry run, which I need 
  to secure the right facilities at Sun. My apologies that this has not 
been 
  confirmed yet, but being out of the country and trying to coordinate it make 
  things difficult. 

  
Robert 
  Philpott has already asked several questions, but I still haven't seen any 
  replies. PLEASE review these 
questions, which I have inserted below in 
  case you no longer have it: 

  
Hey folks - I'm lining up network 
  access for the dry run. I've asked them to allow http, ftp, email, and 
  VPN 
protocols 
  through the firewall.  Anything else? 

  
Other network 
  questions: 

  
   1.Do we want a DHCP 
  server set up for the local network? 
   2.What about a DNS server?  I 
  would think it would be easiest to just configure an etc/hosts file that we 
  all 
share, but I thought 
  I'd ask.  I'm not sure I'll have time to configure a system for this 
  here, so I would probably need 
someone else to step up to the plate. 
  
   3.Regardless of whether 
  we want DHCP, I assume a bunch of the boxes will need static addresses.  
  We should 
agree on ranges 
  of address for each company to use.  Someone want to propose 
  something? 

  
I did 
  propose something for address ranges, but have seen no reply to that either. 
  Here is that proposal again for your 
comment: 

  
What about a netmask of 
  255.255.255.0 and 192.168.x.y where: 
x would range from 1-N (N being number of 
  participants, assigned in alphabetical order) 
y would be 1-M (M being the number of machines a 
  participant needed) 

  
Additional information that I need includes: 
  

  
- How 
  many people from each company are planning to attend? 
- How many machines 
  will each of you bring with? 
- What would you expect to be provided? 
  

  
I'm not 
  trying to be pushy at all, but without input from all participants on these 
  questions and issues we can't make the 
necessary progress. If someone 
  wanted to volunteer to create a network diagram that shows all participants, 
  their 
machines and any other equipment that would be great. 
  

  
I will be 
  putting together an agenda sometime today or over the weekend for the call 
  this next Tuesday. Feel free to 
send input. I'm leaving Munich for Paris 
  at noon and just can't do it any sooner. 

  
Don;