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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes from today 13 November




From: Lisa Seaburg <>
To: UBL-NDR <>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:25:11 -0600









1. Roll call  

  Bill Burcham        Yes
  Mavis Cournane    Yes
  Mark Crawford     Yes
  Fabrice Desr�     No
  Arofan Gregory     No
  Jessica Glace     No
  Michael Grimley     Yes
  Eduardo Gutentag     Yes
  ">Eve 
  Maler      Yes
  Sue Probert     Yes
  Lisa Seaburg     Yes
  Gunther Stuhec     Yes (signed on X:46)
  Paul Thorpe     Yes
  Kris Ketels     No
  Jon Bosak (observer)    Yes
 
2.   Acceptance of minutes of previous meeting
 
        Minutes from 
30 October
        Minutes from 
6 November

3. Review action items and status
 
Change of Chairmanship (Jon):
    Eve has been doing a great job of chairing, but Sun 
needs eve to be doing other things.  She is being called upon 
elsewhere so she can not continue to chair the subcommittee.  She 
will stay as a member.   
 
I have asked Lisa and Mavis to co-chair this group.  
 
Is there anyone else wanted to do this job?  
 
Formally the arrangement has to be voted upon next week by the whole UBL 
membership.
 
The tricky bit is the formal acceptance of co-chairs as a concept.  So 
this would have to be figured out.  Putting the language in place is up to 
the SC, since this is on that level.
 
ACTION:  Mark as Vice Chair of NDR is responsible for chairing next 
week.  We can make use of Eve's time while she is there.  
 
Mark, Mavis and Lisa need to discuss for next week, maybe, work out a three 
way co-chair.  
 
ACTION:  Mark will put together something for the opening plenary 
session next week.
 
 
Discuss agenda for Face to Face next week.  (Mavis, Bill, Paul, 
Eduardo,  regrets, Eve partial regrets)
 




  
  
    
      Priority
    
      Work Item
    
      Status
    
      Responsibility
  
    
      A
    
      Issues appearing in the
NDR document 
    
      Break down into smaller pieces
    
      Mavis
      Status: ongoing
  
    
      A
    
      Local vs. global – 
    
      Complete.  
      Need to incorporate into NDR.
    
      Mavis to include
      Status: ongoing
  
    
      A
    
      Code lists 
    
      Needs new draft
    
      Eve
      Status: ongoing
  
    
      A
    
      CCT module work 
    
      In progress.  
      Needs to be broken
down into smaller pieces.  Section 3 work in the NDR document 
      is dependent on this.
    
      Open - Gunther
      Derivation discuss, at F2F
  
    
      A
    
      Containership
    
      Joint effort with LC needs final
resolution.  Still open
    
      Arofan was volunteered by Lisa
  
    
      B
    
      Referencing strategies.
    
      Part of CCT Module Work.
Update in progress.  Anticipate position paper on 5 
      November.
    
      Gunther
      Written 2 papers, 1 today and other will be 
      coming.
  
    
      A
    
      NDR document Rules        
                  
    
      Ongoing
    
      Mavis, Lisa, Gunther
       
  
    
      C
    
      Facet outreach 
    
      Still working.  
      Gunter has received material from Lisa.
    
      Gunther
      Status: ongoing
  
    
      C
    
      MODNAMVER
    
      Complete almost.
      Version work is not done yet, and will be discussed 
      next week.
    
      Bill
       
  
    
      C
    
      Embedded
documentation 
    
      Needs to be moved to NDR
document.  
    
      Arofan
      Will be discussed next week.
  
    
      C
    
      ASN.1 schema 
    
      Done – However there is an
issue within the group 
      on
how/should to present this
    
      Larmouth
  
    
       B
    
      Updating guiding
principles
    
      In Progress
      Separate out different design 
principles.
    
      Mavis/Lisa
  
    
      C
    
      Wildcards
    
      Open
    
      Lisa
  
    
      C
    
      Nillability
    
      Started. Recommendation done.
      Add to NDR document.
    
      Lisa
  
    
      C
    
      Instance Constraints
    
      Open
    
      Lisa
Other 
Discussions:

  
  Derivation of complex 
  Types with Attributes (Gunther)  Will discuss at face to face.
  
  Reusable Elements 
  Position Paper (Eve) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200210/msg00020.html
  
    
    This paper is also 
    within the XML 2002 paper that Eve did.
    
    This has to do with 
    declaring elements to complex types, and attach semantic properties.  
    There are a few gotcha's, you have to have globally distinct things.  
    Every element is bound to a type, the use of the elements within different 
    contexts that make it work??  Notes here are sketchy.
 
 
4.  Work through 
other NDR document "flesh out" issues
 
     Mavis and Lisa:


  
  Turn the free normative text in the NDR document into 
  isolated, numbered rules. Status:  still open.  
  
    
      Rewording 
    rules emails:
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200211/msg00014.html
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200211/msg00015.html

  
   Ancillary documents that will be 
  attached to the NDR document.  One of these is the ASN.1 (Paul), we have 
  not made a decision yet on this.
  
    
    ACTION:  
    (Mavis) Get the list of documents from Eve, then lets add this discussion to 
    the agenda for next week.
    
    Mark: We need to 
    look at the rules to see that they belong in the NDR document or not.  
    So, we as a team needs to discuss this from a high level 
basis.
 
5.  Other 
Sub-Committees:

  
  LCSC - 
  
  Tools and Techniques 
  - 
  
  Context Methodology - 
  May try to meet if there are enough members.

6.  Next 
meeting topics

  
  November 18-22 F2F 
  Agenda
Adjourn


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Lisa 
Seaburg
AEON Consulting
Website: http://shell.gmi.net/~xmlgeek/
Email:  

Alternative Email: 
Phone: 
662-562-7676
Cellphone: 662-501-7676
 
"Remember that great love and great achievements 
involve great 
risk."
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