Re: Fw: [wsbpel-reqts] Groups - Issues coordination call - agenda addedmodified

Thanks - what is your sense of how best
to move forward on 107?  Do you expect to put a proposal to vote forward
soon?   

Regards, Diane

IBM  Dynamic e-business Technologies



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"Yaron Y. Goland"
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04/26/2004 07:01 PM

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Re: Fw: [wsbpel-reqts] Groups
- Issues coordination call - agenda added modified

I apologize for not making the call but I had the
meeting set in my 

calendar for an hour later than it actually was.

As for 91, 97 & 99, I suspect we should first vote on 107 because if
107 

is voted in then 91/97/99 are voted out by default.

                
                 Yaron

Diane Jordan wrote:

> 

> Hi,

> Monica Martin, Tom Freund and I were on the call today.   Notes
on the 

> discussion:

>  

> - how to handle issues from non-members

> we'd like to be able to accept these - the suggestion was that when
we 

> get such issues, we put them in a "pending" state and at
the next TC 

> meeting ask if there is any objection to opening them.  We might
also 

> want to ask for a "sponsor" to submit it formally.  We
can cover this at 

> the next meeting to make sure everyone is ok with it.

> - agenda for next call:

> proposals to vote on: issue 37, 91, 97, 99, 101

> - Would like to talk about how to tackle the issues related to 91,97
and 

> 99 (107, 82 and 109) so we can move forward on these.  

> Since Yaron didn't make the call, we weren't able to delve into the

> 91,97, 99 dependency tree.  The discussion on 107 at the last
call 

> didn't seem to be moving very directly toward a resolution.  

> Yaron - any comments?

> 

> discussion of issue 34

> We discussed whether it would be appropriate to formulate a proposal
to 

> vote at this point and to what extent the alternatives should be 

> included in it.  Monica will prepare one that focuses on stating
the 

> bpel requirements vs calling out the WS-Addressing spec.  I asked
that 

> the alternative discussion include some thinking on deferring action
on 

> this till we are closer to finalizing the spec so that whatever we

> decide to do is based on the most current status.  

> Monica mentioned that she may not be able to participate on the call

> next week - she'll let me know by Friday if this should be deferred
to 

> the following tc call.  

> 

> - any updates on action items agreed to in f2f for:  75, 83,
108,11, 103.  

> We didn't talk about this but I'd like to go through these action
items 

> and ask for status on the TC call next week.  Let me know if
you have 

> any concerns with this.  

>  

> - start list of possibilities for handling votes at next f2f (assuming

> we may not have quorum)

> I'm putting together a list of things we might do to avoid the problems

> with voting we had last time and will circulate it first to this group

> and then the full TC before the next f2f.  Monica suggested we
specify 

> times for people to call in to vote.  I suggested that we might
want to 

> align those times with the roll call.

>  

> I noted that we have been strictly enforcing the rule that if you
miss 

> two out of three meetings, you get a warning and if you miss the next

> one you get changed to observer.  Since we haven't had trouble
in 

> general getting to quorum (only at f2f's) we have not been strictly

> enforcing the part about the chair having discretion to change people

> who have a pattern of consistently missing 2 out of 3, however we
do 

> remind people to consider switching to observer if this is the case
and 

> many have.  

>  

> - discuss vote on dates for next f2f.  After the last call, I
was told 

> that WfMC is meeting in SF on June 21-23 (1pm) thus ovelapping the
plans 

> we adopted to hold our meeting June 22 through noon June 24 (tues,
wed, 

> thurs).    

> I'll mention this at the next tc call and ask if there is interest
in 

> reconsidering our vote and moving the dates of our meeting to all
day 

> June 23 and 24 and half day June 25 (Wed, thurs and fri).