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RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies




















Gale,






I have added your statement
in your recent email to the power storage strategies thread below.






You said:






I missed
the call/discussion this week.  But wanted to note that the system
intelligence must be able to self discover and modify in some fashion as what
David Webber described.  When dealing with resources that can either
degrade or be upgraded/enhanced over time, we have to have an automatic
adjusting mechanism which is very similar to a discovery mechanism.
 Otherwise the system resources will either become underutilized or over
committed over time.









Are you advocating a discovery mechanism (1) within the plane of
control / single ownership boundary or (2) more globally in place of loose
coupling, market-based interactions outside the owner's boundary?






Ed









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From: Holmberg, David [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:31 PM

To: David RR Webber (XML); Ed Cazalet

Cc: [email protected]; 'Phil Davis';
[email protected]; [email protected]; 'Considine,Toby (Campus
Services IT)'

Subject: RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies












I would add to that—even in the local scenario (i.e., within
single ownership boundary) a market based model can make sense. I still need
some value signal to determine balance of load, storage, and generation. Price
and markets allow for more distributed and simple control. Of course, once we look
at interactions with entities outside the owner’s boundary (call it the ESI),
we want loose coupling, market-based interactions. 






Thanks for a great discussion,

David












From: David RR Webber
(XML) [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:04 PM

To: Ed Cazalet

Cc: [email protected]; 'Phil Davis';
[email protected]; [email protected]; 'Considine,Toby (Campus
Services IT)'

Subject: RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies















Ed,


















Yikes!!! I was not expecting that answer!  I just fell into a
time vortex back ten years to beginning of ebXML work.


















My scenario was micro-economy local scenario - yours is macro
economy - eMarketplace model.  


















Obviously infinite permutations of these once the supporting
infrastructure is there.


















Very cool.  I like it!


















Thanks, DW






























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