Re: [ubl-dev] Representing taxable freight charges in an Invoice

["Roberto Cisternino" <roberto@javest.com>]

Thank you Tim,

I believed that was your scenario and I wanted provide you the elements to
decide.

Best regards

Roberto

>            If the intention is that all invoices that attract delivery
> charges should be represented by
>  FreightInvoice, then this could be made clearer in the UBL documentation.
>
>  In section 4.6.1, "Billing Business Rules Assumed" it discusses
> packaging, delivery/postage,
>  and freight in the context of Invoice.  No mention is made of
> FreightInvoice.
>
>  Section 4.6.4, "Freight Billing" talks about using Freight Invoices, in
> the context of transport
>  service providers invoicing customers for logistics services, not for the
> goods being transported.
>
>  Section 4.11. "Document Types" describes FreightInvoice as "A document
> issued by a transport
>  operation specifying freight costs and charges incurred for a transport
> operation and stating
>  conditions of payment."
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Tim
>
>  Roberto Cisternino wrote:    Generally speaking it is a bad idea to
> change the semantic meaning of a business document, in UBL 2.0 and UBL
> 2.1 the FreightInvoice is the best for freights. Technically speaking the
> Invoice and FreightInvoice differs just for one aggregate "Shipment"
> which is exaclty containing he requirements for freight practices. I add
> also that if anyone should choose an invoice for advanced cross-border
> that document is the FreightInvoice. OIOUBL is not a good reason for not
> using it if you are not implementing their profile...  In your sample you
> can choose between filling up teh TaxCategory inside the AllowanceCharge
> (for simple cases) or the TaxCategory available inside
> TaxTotal/TaxSubTotal (for more complex cases with subtotals)  The
> TaxTotal aggregate has the same structure of the one you find on the line
> items.  best regards                    Thanks for the response. I'd
> ruled out FreightInvoice earlier as for my purposes, freight is treated
> as just another line item.  Looks like neither OIOUBL nor NESUBL use it
> either.   Here is the updated example as per your other suggestions:
>       true          Freight          10.00               10.00
>        GST                 1.00             true          Untaxed freight
>          10.00               00.00                   GST
> 0.00     Also, whats the rationale behind including TaxCategory in
> AllowanceCharge but not on InvoiceLine?  On InvoiceLine it looks like it
> must be specified via the TaxSubtotal, requiring elements to be
> duplicated.  From the UBL-Invoice-2.0-Example.xml:      100.00
> 17.50          true               100.00              17.50
>     A                       UK VAT                      VAT         .....
>   Thanks,   Tim   Roberto Cisternino wrote:    please remove the 2nd row
> of my answer... sorry            Hello, as the TaxAmount is separated by
> th 1st of all I believe you are using an UBL-FreightInvoice-2.0  The
> FreightInvoice is exaclty an UBL Invoice with an additional aggregate
> called "Shipment" where you can find a specific "FreightAllowanceCharge"
> data structure. GST is a scheme of tax, so you have to explode the
> TaxTotal and specify the TaxCategory where you can put a percentage and
> expand the TaxScheme to specify "GST" on its ID.  You can further fill up
> the TaxCategory with further information related to the GST category use
> case.  Hope this helps,  Roberto Cisternino                  Hi all,
> how is freight typically represented in an Invoice? I want to represent
> freight costs which may or may not attract 10% GST.  E.g:
> true Freight with GST         10.00                      1.00
> true         Freight without GST         50.00       I'm assuming that
> the AllowanceCharge/Amount and
> Invoice/LegalMonetaryTotal/ChargeTotalAmount exclude tax. Is this valid?
> Thanks,  Tim
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