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   RE: Since we're talking about databases...

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  • From: "Jeffrey E. Sussna" <jes@kuantech.com>
  • To: "'Clark Evans'" <clark.evans@manhattanproject.com>,<xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:47:31 -0800

There is work on XML-based transport using HTTP: the WebBroker NOTE from W3C.

As far as XML and databases are concerned, I believe Oracle has integrated an XML parser into their RDBMS product. I don't know any more details than that.

Jeff Sussna

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk [mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
Clark Evans
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:30 PM
To: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Since we're talking about databases...


I'm rather new to the list.  I was wondering if there is any
current (open source?) work for storing XML in relational 
databases.  I was thinking of using PostgreSQL.

Thoughts: (I've read almost everything on Robin Cover's site)

a) I've been reading everything I can on XML and see a big
opportunity to have a standard based upon formal systems.
The forest automata papers are expecially exciting, now I 
regret goofing-off during computational complexity...
Anyway, I'd love to see/learn more on this aspect of XML 
before I jump head first into coding. Any more pointers?

b) The XML Archetectures seems to be the right way to 
go from my understanding of the readings, thus any 
database would have to support this.  Is this the
concensus or are their vaired opinions?  

c) GROVES look pretty cool.  Is there anyone working
on a xml property set? Would it be smart to implement
an xml database upon the groves abstraction, or would
a direct (DOM) based implemention be better? 

d) How hard would it be to develop a transition/rewrite
engine (say by modifying JADE) to work using a database 
store instead of memory?  Thoughts?  Any work in 
this area?

e) Is there any thoughts on a XML transport layer
(instead of using CORBA), based upon SMTP and POP3
or equivalent?  I was thinking more along the
lines of LISTSERV, where message logistics are 
handled in a smart way.  

f) Has anyone proposed a standard SQL 92 RDBMS mapping? 


:) Clark Evans

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