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- From: Nathan Kurz <email@example.com>
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org (xml-dev list)
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:03:43 -0600 (CST)
Jonathan Borden writes:
> <term>document</term> is defined as in the XML spec. documents are well
> formed. when a document fragment is isolated from its parent document, it
> becomes a standalone document.
Sounds fine so far...
> a document may contain a prolog. a document fragment may not. a document may
> contain a !DOCTYPE definition (DTD), a document fragment may not. Hence all
> document fragments are legal documents but not all documents are legal
> document fragments.
I think I follow what you are saying, but I'm confused why you would
choose to define a document fragment in this way. Why can't it
contain a prolog? Are you assuming that document fragment must be
produced as a reduction of a parent document? It strikes me as very
odd to define 'document fragment' as a superset of 'document'.
> <term>stream</term> is ambiguous but generally refers to a series of bits or
> bytes or characters. In general, a stream behaves similarly to a socket.
Yes, or going further, a stream behaves similarly to a continuous
unidirectional broadcast. The canonical stock ticker might well be
continuously transmitting the XML data by FM radio.
> <term>protocol</term> is layered above a network transport, or socket and
> defines a mutually agreed upon mechanism to exchange messages and other
> So what does this have to do with XML? The canconical example of streamed
> XML is the stock ticker. Assuming each stock quote is transmitted in a
> document, the HTTP protocol can employ a particular URL e.g.,
> http://wherever/quotes/next to return the next quote as a single document.
> Suppose we wish to transmit 100 quotes as distinct documents, this does not
> work with HTTP which returns a single MIME message response for each
> request. The solutions would be to employ 1) multipart messages 2) wrap the
> quotes in a single document 3) use another protocol.
> Suppose we use raw sockets? Nothing to prevent sending one document after
> another down the socket. The end of one document and the start of another
> are unambigous assuming the documents are well-formed.
I completely agree. Which is to say that using a non-XML character
(cntl-l or cntl-c) as a seperator might be a useful protocol, but is
not necessary. Nothing prevents one from sending multiple documents
serially as unadulterated XML.
> So, the problem here is not one with XML, rather the protocol used to
> transmit documents, HTTP and SMTP send one MIME message per PDU, streaming
> protocols can be defined which transmit multiple documents.
But the definition of XML processor does become a problem here. If
the stream consists of multiple XML documents, one must use an
XML-aware processor to parse it. But this had better be a
non-conforming XML processor, since according to the spec a
'conforming XML processor' must cry foul if its input doesn't have one
and only one root element.
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