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   RE: In praise of SVG

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  • From: Peter Murray-Rust <peter@ursus.demon.co.uk>
  • To: <xml-dev@xml.org>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:24:20 +0000

At 04:25 PM 2/25/00 -0500, Didier PH Martin wrote:
>Hi Peter
>Peter said:
>Here is a wild idea. Would it be a useful exercise to create an XML browser
>in SVG?
>Didier replies:
>Very Easy Peter, I did one during my lunch time...not kidding. I took me
>exactly one hour do make one. But I let you consume a bit of glucose to find
>how. Just two hints:
>a) the adobe plug-in (a free component)
>b) I already said too much on how to make it :-))
>OK, I'll be a good boy, it also includes a DOM implentation so, just add to

What is "it"? - your solution or the Adobe plugin? Since I am ignorant of
the mechanism of plugins I am
not sure whether the basic DOM is provided by the browser or the plugin.
(Obviously the SVG-specific DOM
comes from the plugin).

>this a free java script implementation, put it in the oven for 5 minutes and

You mean that there is a portable Javascript interpreter than can be
combined with this? If so, that is good news

>you'll get the prefect meal :-))
>PS: after using SVG on a fast SVG renderer you'll ask yourself why on earth
>you ever used swing. 

Well I asked the list and I am delighted to have my rather incomplete ideas
confirmed. Certainty is a very powerful force in programming...

My partner would say that we just momentarily lost our
>minds. :-) Peter, you didn' read my last article.

Sorry - there is lots I don't read :-) Student's work comes high in my

> In my last xml.com article
>I used an SVG component and even, went so far as give you the link to where
>you can get a free one. Anyway, I'll give an other chance, I'll write an
>other one dedicated to SVG with an application that will probably surprise
>you. An apps cooked in Didier's lab and ready for consumption :-)). By the
>way, a plug-in can also be used in something else than in a Microsoft or
>Netscape browser... too late, I gave you the second hint.

Until now I had assumed that plugins were undocumented monsters. This
suggests than one can actually get an API out of a plugin.

So - given that my suggestions is (a) possible and (b) a Good Thing - where
do we go? It would certainly make sense for me to thing about any future
JUMBO based on this (I have already started thinking about using
Stylesheets to drive the screen layout, style, etc.) The possible weakness
of SVG might be text input - or does one use HTML for that?


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