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- From: "Paulo Gaspar" <Paulo.Gaspar@krankikom.de>
- To: "Xml-Dev" <xml-dev@xml.org>
- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:31:08 +0200
I had the same nasty "thrown together over night" feelling about
the XUL and some other Mozzila stuff - some great ideas but not
enough pollishing.
However, I thing the general idea is very good.
The current XForms evolution is interesting too. The current data
model does not live up to my expectations, but I hope they evolve
to match the requirements high standards.
My favorite thing in the XForms requests:
- separation between data and presentatation issues.
My complains about the Data Model draft:
(http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms-datamodel/)
- Not enough mention of internationalization, when issues that
involve it - as multiple choice lists and data validation -
are mentioned;
- No mention of "user-metadata" when talking about validation.
Data definitions and error handling imply telling the user
WHAT is wrong in a way he can understand. I found no clear
mention of that. (Did I miss a hook to be handled somewhere
else);
- Too much dependency on the existence of a DOM;
- Still a bit promiscous with presentation issues.
DOMs and their access by scripting languages are complex. I think
that XSLT could be used as a validation mechanism on top of the
schemas, and it could be quite powerful. (XForms are to post data
in XML format.)
XSLT is a quite powerfull tool, but many programmers don' seem to
recognize it (also in Mozzila). It is a different way of thinking,
but worth giving a try for many data processing/formating tasks.
Much nicer and cleanner than coding a bunch of iterations.
Even without this being a standard, I would have some kind of
XForms NOW! Even for our internal tools, that could help a lot.
Have fun,
Paulo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xml-dev@xml.org [mailto:owner-xml-dev@xml.org]On Behalf Of
Don Park
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:00 AM
To: xml-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: XUL and Java?
Interestingly enuf, I wrote a XUL engine in Java when XUL docs
first came out (> 1 year ago?). It worked well but I had to
stop working on it after hacking the CSS parser for it. It
requires a lot of work but I have confirmed that it is very
effective for building GUI quickly. Very useful. XUL DTD is
irritating though as if it was thrown together over night.
Best,
Don Park - mailto:donpark@docuverse.com
Docuverse - http://www.docuverse.com
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