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   AW: Schema at XML namespace URI to change

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  • From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  • To: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>,"Henry S. Thompson" <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:45:55 +0200

> Von: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2000 16:22
> An: Henry S. Thompson
> Cc: XML Developers List
> Betreff: Re: Schema at XML namespace URI to change
>
>
> At 03:12 PM 10/22/00 +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
> ><snip/>
> >
> >> It also appears to establish 'facts on the ground' regarding the use
> >> of namespaces without the need for a formal W3C process.
> >
> >My announcement doesn't signal the establishment of any new 'facts on
> >the ground' in the area of what's at namespace URIs.  There has been an
> >XML Schema document at http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace.xsd for
> >over a year now.  Furthermore, as I said in my message, this change
> >came about _according_ to a formal W3C process, namely an XML Schema
> >Working Group vote.
>
> 1.  Those documents were placed there initially without a formal vote,
> according to earlier discussions on this list.  While the formal vote you
> refer to may effectively ratify such actions, it doesn't appear to address
> the general question of whether this approach is appropriate in general.
>
> 2.  It's not clear (to me at least) that establishing the 'meaning' of XML
> Namespace URIs is a job that should be mixed with the creation of the XML
> Schemas vocabulary.  By formal W3C process, I meant establishing a WG that
> would create a document addressing these issues in general.
>
> While some people do appear to believe that namespaces work in a
> particular
> way, I haven't seen any good attempts at justifying that approach.
> Attempts (by Dan Connolly et al) on xml-uri all seem to fade
> quickly in the
> face of strong opposition.
>
> I'd suggest that namespaces are important enough that this is worth
> resolving in a stronger way than the placement of schemas at
> W3C-controlled
> URIs using an ad hoc convention.

We've also heard from Dan:

<quote from="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-uri/2000Jun/0430.html">
> Sure, but I would argue that http://www.w3.org is not necessarily the
right
> place to do experiments like that. If it can't be avoided, I would still
> prefer that the schema document returned actually comes with a statement
> that this is just experimental usage of namespaces / schema.

Fair enough.
</quote>

However, this practice seems to continue...

Julian





 

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