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   Re: The Mire 'twixt Documents And Data

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  • From: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
  • To: Marcus Carr <mrc@allette.com.au>, xml-dev@lists.xml.org
  • Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:30:18 +0000

> > Of course, people must first settle onto the act that docuents and
> > data are inseperable, and that was the original purpose of the first
> > message, and this one moves me onto the next level (and hence this
> question): is anyone developing an WYSIWYG annotation GUI?
> You might be interested in PageSeeder (http://www.weborganic.com/) -
> it is (among other things) an annotation tool that uses Topic Maps,
> and XSLT. [...] Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

Yes, that's very similar. Did you see my rant about the "Mosaic of the
Semantic Web" on www-html/www-talk? I outlined the need there thus:-
SW Format: I believe that the best scenario for creating an interfacable
Seamntic Web (SW) is to provide a framework that is based on XHTML and RDF:
i.e. a sort of hybrid document/data format. I tried to do this myself with
annotations, but as usual got a bit bogged down. At the end of the day we
need a format that is Semantic but can be easily rnendered using CSS. Plain
XML can already acheive this, but doesn't have the correct smeantics (too
broad), so I think an XHTML/RDF hybrid is a good direction to go.
SW/SW Editor: The problem is that this format will be quite necessarily
complex. Therefore, you would need some kind of WYSIWYG editor for it. It
should also be able to partially understand other well described XML/RDF
formats, ala "Partial Understanding" in TimBL's design notes (forgot the
What is required is an editor/browser that can reder/understand/display a
documentized form of RDF, as well as understanding any other RDF. In other
words, it should be possible to store all of your data as a form of RDF
(with a few extra semantics) and broswe and edit it quite easily. I have
already showed it is possible to store data as RDF and documentize it on
fly. With XLink capabilities and CSS added to the mixture, the hypermedia
possibilities are endless!

Kindest Regards,
Sean B. Palmer
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ [ERT/GL/PF]
"Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down in semantics."
   - Homer J. Simpson, BABF07.


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