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RE: designers as users etc.
- From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <email@example.com>
- To: "Simon St.Laurent" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:31:16 -0500
I'm probably more concerned with just how good the
schema designs from committees are going to be. Even
with the relative simple-mindedness of DTDs, it can
be difficult to get agreement given the n-dimensional
competence problems (tools, technologies, subject domain,
mammalStuff). Now we have a very powerful but still
largely unpracticed schema language that borders on
but is not quite an object-oriented design tool (vs
DTDs which were pretty much just documents and
structured lists), emerging competing schema languages,
and a certain lack of methodology-centric design
tools to hide the rules for all of these. Toss in
the semantic web hype and this is a witches brew
guaranteed to produce "toil and trouble". Put
all that in the hands of people who have yet
to understand what well-formed means and you
see quickly that XML is really in much worse
shape than SGML for the end-user.
Somewhere near the top of the list of every
XML project will be the topic:
Limiting the Options: Understanding the End Game
Don't Publish Just Because It Parses
Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h
From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 AM
To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
Subject: RE: designers as users etc.
On 12 Jun 2001 09:24:21 -0500, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> I'm not sure what the conclusion here is:
> o Only programmers should use systems
> o Only users should program systems
> and then how that translates to XML where
> o Any one can write an instance
> o Only some programs can process some instances
> What is the point exactly?
The point is that bringing users closer to the design process can
improve the design on multiple levels. Also, the value of iterative
development and maximum flexbility in the course of such design.
The claim that "only some programs can process some instances" is true
because we've let it be true. On some levels - XML parsing - it's
largely false. XML seems to me to be an opportunity to get beyond that
painfully narrow (but supposedly easy) vision of information processing.
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