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Re: Bad News on IE6 XML Support



I'm a graphic artist/writer who learned programming and I can tell you that
I would never ask my designers to design for client-side XML. XML is meant
for the server until support for it on the browser becomes ubiquitous, and
it's nowhere near that now. Nobody should be encouragng designers or HTML
jockeys to write client-side XML period, for any reason, unless it's for a
closed system or they just want to learn it. Sorry, but this holds true for
XHTML as well.

XML is all about the separation of data from presentation. Keep the
designers in their graphics programs, and get the programmers the hell away
from the design (for heaven's sake, whatever you do, keep the programmers
away from design). XML is a beautiful language for server side processing.
You can send it out any way you want thanks to XSLT. For the client, it's
just a playground.


Chuck White
CEO
The Tumeric Partnership
http://www.tumeric.net
chuck@tumeric.net
________________________________________
Co-Author, Mastering XML, Premium Edition
Sybex Books, May, 2001
http://www.javertising.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjoern Hoehrmann" <derhoermi@gmx.net>
To: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
Cc: "Christopher R. Maden" <crism@maden.org>; <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Bad News on IE6 XML Support


> * Simon St.Laurent wrote:
> >>So XML Everywhere Except The Browser, then?
> >
> >No, CSS works quite nicely for XML in browsers - Mozilla is a nice
example,
> >Opera's not too much further off (if they fixed Unicode support, anyway!)
> >
> >IE is a long ways further off, and probably the main blockage for such
> >usage today.
>
> I still don't see any good reasons why I should use my own proprietary
> document language plus CSS for my homepage instead of XHTML plus CSS.
> What do I, my users, and the web in general gain by this? If there are
> good reasons, I'd be curious to know what's wrong with XHTML and why the
> W3C still spends time with further development of XHTML.
>
> >XSLT is useful, but I can't see myself telling graphic designers at
WEB2001
> >(where I presented yesterday) that they _have_ to learn XSLT to get XML
> >information to a browser.
>
> Sorry, but graphic designers design graphics, they aren't respobsible
> for authoring web documents and even less for dealing with XML data and
> even if they were for some obscur reasons, there are other way to get
> XML data in some format applicable for web browsers.
> --
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