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RE: [xml-dev] Re: determining ID-ness in XML

Is it a requirement that ALL things in the language be scoped?

Is it required they be declared in the grammar given that if 
there is a grammar, there is already a way to declare an ID? 

xml:id and xml:idatt only work if the standard means of 
declaration has been avoided.

There isn't a gap in the architecture.  There is a flawed 
practice for which the requirement posted thus far is XPointer 
raw and streaming.  These should be the contexts for choosing 
the solution IF any.


-----Original Message-----
From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk [mailto:ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:21 AM
To: Michael Fuller
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org; Marcus Carr
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Re: determining ID-ness in XML

Michael Fuller <msf@mds.rmit.edu.au> writes:

> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:40:38AM +1100, Marcus Carr wrote:
> > > e.g.  <?xml-typeinfo idnames="abc:id, ID, id"?>
> > I agree, so despite the fact that it feels as though I'm swimming in
> > I'm making one last pitch for the idea of using a PI.
> [...]
> > Does anyone really find the xml-stylesheet processing instruction such a
> > kludge?
> No; but then I never understood why the use of processing instructions
> had become infra dig. W3C politics, I hear whispered. Anyone care to

1) They're not scoped, everything else about the language is.
2) They're not declared in the grammar (DTD/Schema), so their usage is not
subject to any declarative/universal quality control: you're back to
writing ad-hoc code in every application to check they occur where and 
how they're supposed to.

  Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh
          W3C Fellow 1999--2001, part-time member of W3C Team
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	    Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
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