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   RE: [xml-dev] Re: Training

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrzej Jan Taramina [mailto:andrzej@chaeron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:03 PM
> To: Nick Abdullah
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: [xml-dev] Re: Training
> My experience is that much formal training is a waste of time for good
> people.  Buy
> them some good O'Reilly (and other) books on XML and give them some
> to play
> with the open source tools.  For good developers that is usually more
> productive,
> faster and cheaper (and often more fun for them).  Or send them to the
> nearest XML
> conference with some specific goals that they need to achieve.

I worked in developer education for eight years before I "retired" to a
small software company in the Pacific northwest. 

I agree that most developer training is dreck. That stated, certain
technologies lend themselves well to total immersion in order to get
certain insights and dare I say it, zen. This is especially true for
deeply layered technologies (e.g., COM, XML).  I doubt that folks who
learned XML from me or my colleagues had problems coping with PSVI, the
role of WSDL bindings vs. portTypes, etc. Those concepts + the overall
zen are hard to capture in a book (God knows I tried ;-).

For more "vanilla" technologies (e.g., Java, C#, JDBC, ADO.NET, EJB), I
agree books can be more efficient than training. 



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