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Thanks a lot betty, len, and michael. The input and
advice is very informative and most definately
appreciated. i guess in a nutshell, DTDs still carry
a certain significance and an amount of usefulness,
but the Schema+Schematron combination is a 'stronger'
approach to take in XML application development.
len, i will definately check out the resources that
you suggested.
Regards,
--- "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>
wrote:
> DTDs are not a "must have" in all contexts.
> They have a primitive set of datatypes but
> are a reasonably good means to declare
> names and organize them into structures.
>
> DTDs are used to specify application languages
> such as XML Schema but well-formed processing
> enables one to start from XML Schema without
> using DTDs. I guess the question is, do you
> need to validate the XML Schema language itself
> before you use it? The answer is, not usually
> but a DTD can be used to design and validate
> a language like XML Schema which can then be
> used to validate applications of XML Schema.
>
> Say you want to design a new parts language.
> You will want to validate your design. Once
> done, someone using it probably doesn't want
> to do that. You can start from DTDs, or you
> can start higher up from XML Schema. How
> much validation do you need? For example,
> Schemas will do more than DTDs, but not as
> much as Schemas plus Schematron. You
> can do it all with Schematron, but that
> could be painful.
>
> Yes, DTDs aren't as strong as XML Schema or
> RELAX NG for validation. They are a way
> to bootstrap something like XML Schema or
> RELAX NG. Then you might still need
> schematron or a means to enforce business
> rules, and that could just be code.
>
> BTW: you might want to look into the
> new proposals for pipelining as a means
> to precisely specify when and in what
> order all of this occurs.
>
> Also, ISO DSDL (don't know, haven't looked)
> may prove to be the best combination of
> all of these. XML by serving as a one
> size fits all systems connector is forcing
> all of the systems being connected to be
> be rethought. That is the price for
> being On the Web.
>
> len
>
>
> From: tariq abdur-rahim
> [mailto:ecliptoid330@yahoo.com]
>
> Now, to continue. So, is it safe to say that beyond
> the realm of "basic validation" DTDs are weak in
> terms
> of usefulness? Or is it still a *must-have* in all
> and any XML development; irrespective of whether or
> not it is employed in the development of XML
> applications, XML systems, or applications that uses
> XML applications?
>
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